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(music) (10 hours) I finished Ozark LMBYTS #1495 Jason Newland 23rd November 2025

Recorded 23 November 2025 · 9 hr 41 min

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Hello and welcome to jasonnewland.com. My name is Jason Newland and this is Let Me Bore You To Sleep. Please only listen when you can safely close your eyes.

Yes, eyes, eyes, ooooh, so my internet is still absolutely bleurgh. Important, what? We're working on fixing an issue in this area at the moment. We're sorry for any disruption this may be causing.

We hope you have things fixed as soon as possible. We'll add any updates here. Well why didn't they send at least half the decency or the professionalism or the courtesy or maybe some kindness to send some texts out, some messages out to customers because well they didn't send them to me unless I send them to everyone else except me which would be rude.

I'm now in the process of uploading my podcasts, my latest, my latest two podcasts just to the SoundCloud. But you just said your internet's not working. Ah, I'm not using the broadband Wi-Fi, I'm using the phone mobile data.

Yeah, it's actually faster. I get about 80, 80 plus gigabyte, megabytes a second with the mobile. So using the hotspot, I get a higher, a higher level of speed.

However, let me just check this speed. Speed test, let's check it. I'll do it now while we're talking.

Come on, let's see what we've got. Okay, it's going to be a little bit less because I'm literally uploading something, uploading six files. But even with that, it's still got 20, 30, 40.

Wow, I'm still getting 46 megabytes per second. That's even though I'm uploading six audio files. If I wasn't uploading them, I'd probably be in about 80.

Ah, so that's kind of where we are at the moment. There they are. I don't know what to do.

It's been dragging on since Thursday. And last night the boxing was on. Although I thought it started at four o'clock, but it didn't start at eight o'clock in the evening.

And it went on for seven hours, which means I ended up not watching it until this morning. Because there's no way I was going to be up till three o'clock in the morning. I normally go to bed at 10.

I don't mind staying up till after 11. You know, if if if it's a big fight, live in the UK, I'll stay up to a little bit later. Or if how Dubai have done it in the past, where they've had the big fights on starting at four in the afternoon, finishing about 11, 12.

I'll do that as well. But no way am I, no, I'm not staying up till three or four. Nope.

So I went to bed about half 10. And when I got up, I, I watched the main fight, and then I watched a couple of the others. One, I just didn't want to watch, to be fair.

Devin Haney, I just, I don't want to watch him anymore. I just find him boring to watch. So I didn't watch that one.

But the the main fight was good. David Benavidez against Anthony Yard. So I don't understand why David Benavidez does not get.

I'm not saying he doesn't get the respect or the props. But in the UK, he's not talked about like a great, like one of the greats. And he is he is one of the greats.

Like today's greats. Yeah, he's not. I never hear him really talked about the way Canelo is talked about or Inouye or Tank Davis or it's a few.

What's his name that just beat Canelo? Those or Bivel even, although I've not heard anyone mentioned Bivel's name in ages. But he is one of the greats, unbeaten, became a world champion at the age of 20, held the super middleweight world title twice. And now is the light heavyweight world title holder.

He's got two, two world titles now there. In fact, let's have a look. David Benavidez, Benavidez.

I remember watching him about 10 years ago. He's got to be. He's got to be 30 now nearly 2930.

Is he 28? Okay, so he started I mean, I saw him. I must have seen him when did he when did I first see him? Probably. Probably.

Let's have a look. Yeah. Oh, no.

I think I must have seen him around 2016. Maybe 2015 to 16. Definitely.

I remember watching him fight Ronald Gavril on the 18th of September 2017. And he fought him again. Oh, wait a minute.

Maybe it's 2019. Anyway, I've been watching him since I about 2016. And he started his very first fight was in Mexico.

So he started fighting when he was a teenager. In 2013. Bearing in mind, he was born in 2014.

So he literally was a fetus. I was born in 96 2006. So it was at 17.

He started boxing at 17 in Mexico where it's legal to do that. And then he he got his guess he got his wings, you know, in Mexico fighting and was fine grown men. And he won all of those most of them by knockout.

And then he started fighting in America. Well, Phoenix is kind of semi Mexico, semi Mexico, isn't it? It's kind of just kind of on the border, isn't it? And did Phoenix used to be America? I mean, did did Phoenix used to be Mexico? Classed as Mexico? See, just think it did. And then you've got Yeah, then he comes to eat.

He's living in Phoenix the whole time, I think. So he just probably just like gets a taxi there, probably to have a fight and then comes back. We might stayed at a hotel in the evening.

I don't know. And then he knew wasn't old enough to drink, because he's only like 10, wasn't he? And then he came and started fighting in America when he was 18. So literally, on his 19th fight, he had 18 fights under the age of 20.

And one all of them. In fact, all but one by knockout. Oh, no, wait a minute, all but two, there was a split decision and unanimous unanimous decision.

So all but one was knockout, and there was a retirement. But that's pretty much still a knockout, isn't it? By the way, I learned recently that when it says retirement, it's not. And they don't like get a little gold watch and it's when they can't fight on anymore.

I didn't realize that because I remember when I was about 1819 working in this factory. I was working with someone who was coming up for their retirement. And I was, I was into boxing and that and I thought, so when's your retirement? He said, Oh, it's tomorrow.

I really thought a bunch of people were gonna come in and start punching him. I thought that was what retirement was, you know, where he just like sat down and said no, no mass no mass no more. But yeah, I think there's a boxing joke there somewhere.

So he won the WBC interim super middleweight title 2022. And I wait a minute, what am I doing? I've gone back. I've made this up.

I do apologize. He won the vacant WBC middleweight title. And in 2017, September the 8th.

He retained that. Then he won. He lost the title on the scales.

I think in 2019. So he just weighed too much. So he fought I think is Jay Leon love.

I don't know what kind of name that is. But Julian Julian. So he lost his world title on the scales before the fight.

And he was still the world. He basically was no longer the world champion. And he couldn't win the title back.

So he was fighting someone who had nothing to lose. But he still won the fight. So he didn't, the other bloke didn't win.

But he came out of the fight without a world title, which is Yeah, it's a shame. But then he won it back again. So he won the WBC super middleweight title again in 2019.

September 828. So what's that two years after he won it the first time. And he was really pushed out because he got he got found tested positive for recreational substances not not enhancing stuff afterwards.

So pretty went partying. He was 22 years old, pretty went partying. That was it.

They didn't. He didn't. It's not it wasn't anything that would have enhanced his performance.

So he got I don't know if he got a ban. He got stripped of his world title anyway. It couldn't be much of a bang because he was fighting the 11 months later.

If it was a ban, and then he won. Then two years later again, 17. So he lost that 2019.

Then two years, three years later, he won the vacant WBC interim world title, super middleweight title. Now, Canelo hogged that world title for years and years and years and years and refused to fight David Benavidez refused to fight him. I'm not gonna fight a Mexican, he used to say.

Even though he went on and fought about three different Mexicans in that period. So he clearly didn't want to fight David Benavidez. And that was the biggest fight out there.

At the time for a long time, there was no one no one else bigger than that fight. It was such a good fight. Never gonna see it though.

I don't suppose. Mind you, now that Canelo is kind of on his on his downward spiral. Perhaps he'll, he'll want to fight him now.

Go up a weight. But anyway, he said he won the vacant, he retained it one, two, twice. Then he gave it up.

He went up a weight to light heavyweight. And he won the vacant WBC interim light heavyweight title. Then he retained the WBC interim light heavyweight title.

And he won the WBA regular light heavyweight title. And then yesterday last night, he retained the WBC and the WBA regular light heavyweight title. And he's done that all and still only 28 years old.

And he doesn't get the I don't know, maybe I'm thinking I say it can't be because he's got a difficult name to pronounce because the the sports people and kind of getting around a lot of the the like, better be of better be of some some, some people call him better be of some call him better be of and be of all and I think as a nation because English people in the past were never very good with names.

And this might sound like I'm making up this in my experience. So I've worked with a lot.

I've worked in factories when I was in my 20s. And I did a lot worked with a lot of people from other countries, like 1000s of people from other countries. And the supervisors bearing in mind that a lot of these people weren't even going to be there for more than one day, you know, so they didn't, they didn't want to learn anyone's names.

But the names that were given were almost impossible for them to kind of grasp could be sort of like a really long name. So let's say they were from Portugal or Afghanistan or some African place, and they couldn't pronounce the name. So they call them Bob or Steve.

It's hard to believe it sounds ridiculous, which is true. And they just you see, so when I started working there, I'd be next to a bloke. And I said, So you're right, you're Adam.

So I said, Is your name really Adam? He said, No, my name is not Adam. What is it? It's something else that I can't can't pronounce. But see, I'm just I can't pronounce.

We don't have long names here. It's all kind of Bob and John and Alfred. And, you know, it's very simple, quite simple names in this country, or at least it used to be.

And the supervisors, even Andre, my friend Andre, not my little boy, the ferret, but my friend Andre, the original one. Now, I never struggled with Andre, I didn't find it hard word to say, hard name. But supervisor would call him Andrew, or Andy.

He couldn't call him Andre couldn't remember that it's too complicated. So it's true. Alf, Arthur, or Arthur, you shouldn't you can't pronounce a th.

Well, that's spelled for th. Arthur. What Arthur? What are you doing Newland? Don't you want to? Why don't we work? Don't you want to work here? Of course I don't.

Why would I want to work here for? You never could quite get that. Don't you want to work it? Oh, yeah. One, two pound 10 an hour.

I think I'm getting Yeah, brilliant. I mean, two pounds 10 an hour wasn't even that was rubbish even back then. I mean, it's, it's rubbish, you know, it's small amount of money.

But I think at one point I was getting 100 and 100 pound a week. I don't think I was even earning enough to pay tax. So 100 pound a week, 40 pound would go to my landlady.

For the week, probably 10 pounds with electric and gas for now for 10 pounds with electric in the winter anyway, that ate those 50 pences up and just the rest for food and anything else. There's still such a small amount of money to do anything with. And that was 40 hours a week for 100 pound.

Wow. But then two years earlier than that. I was doing 40 hours a week for how much was I getting? 47 pound I think not 47 35 35 45 55.

Yeah, probably about 55. Because I'd work the extra Saturday as well. I think even when I worked in a chip shop, not a chip shop the there.

Yeah, when I worked in the co-op, I don't think I got more than about a 80 quid a week 60 to 80 quid a week. It's really, really, really rubbish money. Especially for young people.

Maybe I got 100 pound a week. Maybe I did. Maybe 120 pound a week.

I don't think so. When I became a canvasser knocking on people's doors trying to see if they wanted double glazing windows. I think my basic was 150 a week.

And sometimes I take home 230 240 a week with bonuses. I might make that up. I definitely took home 175 one week, which at the time is huge.

You know, my rent probably was 30 quid a week. You know 100 and I was always living from week to week. Always back then and I suppose still am now actually.

You know, if, if my money stopped, I've got probably a week, a week in me, I get by for a week and then that'd be it. And I wouldn't have to go have to go to the soup kitchen, the food bank and all that stuff. That's how I used to live back then when I was working.

It's weird. Yet there was all these, I reckon I could have been potentially quite good at telephone sales when I was a teenager. Because I love talking on the phone.

It was my favourite, well, wasn't my favourite thing, but it was one of my favourite things. I loved having a netter. But I didn't discover that ability really until I hit 30.

So all those years, I mean, I might have, it might have been something that I could have had a career in. Always looking in the past. Try looking to the future.

There's more of it, isn't there? That's the thing, you know, the past. At 55, there's more, there's more to look at, there's more to review. I do feel sometimes I'm just reviewing my life now.

Just looking back thinking, did I really do that? But it's a mixture of, did I really do that? And why? Why did I do that? It's definitely that mixture going on. And why didn't I do that? Or did I do something different? And why didn't I learn anything? Why did I not learn from my mistakes? I don't know. I don't have the answer to that.

So then you have that really, not really. Oh, by the way, the podcast gone to, it's weird. Apple podcasts have done exactly the same as what they did a few weeks ago, or a few months ago.

So basically, on my deep hypnosis of sleeping deeply podcast, it's uploading and updating to the latest, but all the past stuff's just gone off of there, it's not showing any of the past stuff. So it is still showing, you know, the last two podcasts that I've done, and some random one, but it's not showing any of the stuff from, well, from quite a long time ago. It's a little bit strange, because I, on the website, it's fine.

The website's coming up absolutely fine. So you can still go back and look at all the old episodes if you want on the website. But I'm thinking, maybe it's time just to just, just to just maybe get rid of that podcast and just have the Let Me Bore You To Sleep podcast.

Just have one podcast. It's complicated running lots of different podcasts. And it's a little bit, you know, I mean, just in it.

I don't know, we'll see. I'm not gonna make any rash decisions. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not.

No, I'm not. Right, so I am focusing on you, but I'm just also focusing on making sure that these podcasts are uploaded to SoundCloud. So this morning, yeah, this morning, I finally finished Ozark.

So Ozark's done. And apparently, I don't, I read this thing about it, and they said, oh, they were considering doing a series five, or season five. But the way they ended season six, it didn't look like there was season four, rather, it didn't look like there was another season coming up.

Anyway. They kind of ended it, ended it, you know. As per usual, I wasn't generally happy with how it ended.

But I generally am not happy with how those shows end. Not in a kind of negative way, just after watching like 10, 20, 30, 40, 5, maybe 50 episodes of a show lasting an hour each. It's, I think it's quite difficult not to become a little bit emotionally involved, or emotionally care a bit about some of the characters, just some.

And one of them was, there was a person in there that didn't get out of the show, intact, as it were. I don't want to spoil it for anyone who hasn't watched it. But this person was arguably one of the stars, actually, although technically, she wasn't but or he wasn't.

But yeah, it was inevitable. But frustrating at the same time. And what's weird about it is I watched the very first probably four, four episodes years ago.

And then I stopped watching it. I don't know why something else came up. And every now and then I'd visit it again, trying to figure out where I had watched it up to.

And every time I visited it, I just couldn't be bothered with it at all. I couldn't get into it. It's like, I can't get into it because I don't, I can't know what's happened.

So in the end, Vinnie's stealing something. He's going through my stuff. I can't believe he does that while I'm actually watching.

It's like he doesn't know I'm watching. So he's on the little table. His hands are on the table and his feet are on the the armrest of the sofa.

And you just have to look around, see what you can get. He's on a real look, aren't you? I'm watching you. You can't just do what you want.

Look, there's loads of, loads of your little treats there. The dry, dry, dry, dry, dry, dry food is on the settee there, look. We went out this morning and got soaked.

Absolutely soaked. I was soaked to me gusset. Honestly, it was ridiculous.

No one else around. It's almost like it was no one else left on the planet except me and the little one. And when we went out, I went downstairs and the door, the communal door was wide open, like lodged open.

And the rain was coming in and completely flooding, not flooding, but really making the floor wet inside or the lobby, if you want to call it a lobby. So I closed the door thinking, because we've got an overflow as well, so that's making it even worse. So I think, what the hell? I close the door, which makes me wet because that overflows coming onto me from the drain, the drain, the, what do you call them?

Around, catch the leaves around the, they are drains, aren't they? You know, at the top of the building, around the edges, to catch the money, not the money, the water, blimey, my words have gone everywhere.

To catch the peacocks as they eat salmon and the salmon dripping down. Yeah, all my words are gone. So I'm thinking, so I closed the door.

Okay, and then it's raining a little bit. I'm thinking, oh, enough to, to notice. Because I didn't think it was raining.

When I was looking out there, I thought, that's all right. And then by the time we, well, we couldn't have got probably two, a minute or two minutes away, it bucketed it down. And Vinnie did not want any part of it.

And I literally had to drag him to the park. Because he needed to go to the toilet. Eventually, he did go to the toilet.

And we came home and I dried him off. Had to get all my clothes off and put on all new clothes. I say new, but you know, dry clothes.

Clean and put my coat up on the rack. Hopefully, it was above the radiator. Put my shoes below my bedroom radiator.

I even had to take my cardigan my top off and put that and hang that up because that was wet all across the shoulders and the neck. Had to change the t-shirt as well, because that was wet. So I really got wet.

And I took him again out again about through quarter to four, I think it was quarter to four. Nothing, no rain, blue sky. My shoes are dry.

My coat was dry. Everything was fine. Went out and my hat on had my gloves on.

And when I went to get his poo up, I took my glove off to do that. And I didn't even need gloves on. It wasn't cold.

It wasn't just the weather changed. The season changed. Very strange.

It kind of almost went back to, I don't know, spring or something just for a few hours. Now got the windows open and I can feel it's cold in there. But it is 10 to seven, no, 10 to eight rather.

So it's supposed to be cold, isn't it? It's supposed to be man in it. You know what I mean? I mean, today I've not really done much. I mean, I watched the boxing, watched a bit of YouTube.

I watched the end of Ozark, but that was only half an hour. I only had half an hour left, but I was so tired last night. I just went to bed.

Because I knew there's no point in me watching the boxing because I kind of get into it and want to watch it. But I'm not one to struggle and strain to keep awake. And yeah, not done a lot else today.

Oh, that's gone through okay. So I've been coughing a bit, but that's kind of normal really this time of year. I'll probably just a little bit of a cough.

So I'll do okay. The stats have been really good the last couple of days. And then today, a little bit quieter.

But that is natural on a Sunday to be fair. So I'm not gonna bother not gonna worry about it. Not gonna worry anyway, it's fine.

If people listen, they listen. If they don't, they don't. I'll just continue regardless.

I'll carry on regardless. That's my thing. I'm trying to think of something that might happen.

I mean, I probably mentioned on Saturday that I went and saw my dad Friday, had lunch with him. And I hope to get some, they sell stuff around the corner, like it's a farm shop thing. So I want to try and get myself a mop.

And if you'd have told me 20 years ago that I'd I'd be talking on one of my podcasts about getting a mop, I probably would have told you to quit the podcast. Stop making the podcast if you're going to be talking about buying a mop. You clearly run out of things to talk about.

That would have possibly be what I'd tell you, you know, or 10 years ago even. I had a dream. And you were in it.

So you and so you and so you. Wonder when the Wizard of Oz will be shown next. Somewhere over the rainbow.

Oh, I do like that song. I do like I like there was a little bit of a thing, you know, when I was a kid, growing up, oh, Wizard of Oz on again. Oh, I used to like it.

And I used to want to watch it. But my family didn't want to watch it because it's on again. Every Christmas it's on.

And then during the 90s, I don't remember it hardly being on at all. Or even during the 2000s. It's almost like TV stopped putting it on.

Because my family members moaned too much. Yeah. Oh, no, it's in my head now.

I got the dinosaur. Everybody got done. Kim Basinger.

Kim Basinger. Did Kim Basinger sing on a song? song? Yes. Kim Basinger.

She did sing on a song. She featured featured on a song shake your head by was not was, which was recorded in 1992. includes her vocals alongside Ozzy Osbourne.

Additionally, she is known for her role in the film la confidential, where she performed in the soundtrack. I've been trying to think this. I tell you, I'm gonna, I'm gonna have to listen to it.

So shake your head. Let me shake your head. I'm gonna listen to it.

And then I'm going to come back. So I need to know if it's the one I'm thinking of. Because he's been bugging me for weeks and weeks and weeks.

Okay, shake your head. Right? Wasn't it was shake your head shake your head. Yes, that was the song was not was shake your head.

Let's go to bed. 1992 which fits in exactly to the time span that I was thinking of. I knew that Kim because Kim Basinger wasn't she kind of she was a model.

It's like a supermodel and an actress and a singer as well. According to this as well. So it's kind of can't think what movie she was in.

There was some big ones I'm pretty sure was not was. Okay, let's go back. Kim Basinger.

Passenger but I know she was a big star. Very popular actress. Okay.

What is she starring? It's probably I'm probably going to be really feel silly. When I see the ones that she was in. 50 Shades Darker.

Really? Never say never again. I just realized she was in nine and a half weeks. I was gonna say there was a movie that I saw her and I kept watching that movie over and over again.

And I literally just I remember being in that movie. And yeah, nine and a half weeks from 1986 when I was 15. And she was in well Wayne's World to la confidential.

I don't know if I ever even watched la confidential. It's probably something I need to watch. But I don't know if I ever did.

Eight Mile. Is that the one with Eminem? Yep. 50 Shades Darker.

No, I've never watched any of the 50 shades because because because because the nice guys. The Sentinel. Oh, that's okay.

I've never seen that. Cellular door. I think I've seen that door in the floor.

She's in quite a few movies. She hasn't been in any recently. 71 now.

That weird. So 53 63 73 83. She was literally nearly 40 when she did that song.

She always looked so much younger than her age when she was in movies. I mean, not that 40 is old, but not to me anyway. But yeah, I used to love her.

I really did. I loved her. I'm not talking like just I loved emotionally loved.

Oh, I do find this funny though when people so in the apparently was his name Ozzy Osbourne was in it as well that song. And I got these comments. The early 90s was wonderful.

I love how people want to love it. But people make these statements. The 90s were wonderful.

Never seem to think like to put I think in my opinion, I believe the 90s were wonderful. Just a blanket statement. The 90s were wonderful.

I think it therefore everyone should agree. And that's not the case. I know my granddad didn't enjoy the 90s.

And I can't say that I enjoyed the 90s. Not all of it, but some of it wasn't so great. Please take me back to the 90s.

Why would you want to go back? I mean, I'd go back only if I had money. And I could go back, you know, age wise so I could. In fact, I think I'd rather be in I'd regressed to be in 20 physically, I mean, although it'd be weird to be that slim again.

But I still had, you know, the the knowledge that I've gained from being an old fogey. But then I'd also quite like to go back to the 90s for the comedy. Because that was my comedy years.

And I was, I'd say fortunate to be part of a new, a new era in comedy. Because in the late 80s, comedy changed, like alternative comedy. I say not late 80s, but it's like, that's when the stand up really kind of took over.

It was probably like late 70s, really, but the later, you know, the late 80s, comedy clubs started opening up in London, and maybe other parts of the world, the other countries as well. And the 90s was really a real special time, I would say, in my opinion, see, I remember to say that. But from a comedy perspective, two years earlier, nothing wasn't anything there.

There wasn't this wasn't a thing. And then by 91 92 93, middle 90s, late 90s. Comedy had spread comedy clubs had spread like big time.

You know, actual businesses that were running comedy clubs were opening up around the country. But jonglers, for example, and I had a chance to be part of a comedy club, which is one of the first comedy clubs in the UK. I think the comedy stores the first.

But this was another one that started opened in 1989 or 90. I think it was 90. It was a year before I got there.

And then it was, yeah, it was a real really well established comedy club. So I got a chance to be part of that I got a chance to clean their toilets. And everything I helped out with different bits and bobs at times.

I did lots of different things. Just being part of it. I absolutely love that place.

It's the only place I would say that I loved. But I really, I'm not really that attached to things. But that building, I was attached to that building.

And I guess it's supposed to work from a nostalgic perspective. It's possibly useful to realize that one day I'm going to be or potentially will be nostalgic about now. About this period in my life, which may seem weird, may seem even ridiculous that that could happen.

But it is possible that in 10 years, I might be thinking back to here when I was living here, if I'm not living here anymore, and just, oh, and will I be thinking, or funny, I've done that, or funny, I've done something different. And I don't know, possibly. Well, there was something I learned when I was about, I think I was 17 or 18, maybe 18.

And I was sitting, I was standing at the bottom of a pier, really didn't know what to do next. And I was homeless, so there's no job. You know, everything was kind of crumbling again, which happened a lot back then, well, throughout my life.

And I was feeling completely hopeless. And then I remembered that I'd had a similar experience a year ago. And I'd had another experience six months before that.

I had another experience. So going back, I'd had a lot of these experiences when I really felt hopeless, and things weren't going to change. And I was stuck and couldn't move forward.

And even though I'd come back to that, that realization that the fact is, in a few months time, maybe in a year's time, I'm going to look back at this. And I'm going to be sitting in a warm room. And I'm going to be okay.

And it was just it was kind of a realization that you know what things I'm not I'm going to be all right. It was weird. But that just clicked.

And although I can't always get to that, can always get to that kind of thinking process, when I do, it's really helpful. I mean, this is the first time, well, since the last 10 years in my life that I've had, like real stability. I suppose I had it when I was between seven and 15.

So I had stability as far as living in a family home. But as an adult, this is it, you know, this is the only time that I've really had a degree of stability, although that could all go. It's all none of it is sort of none of it is certain none of it is secure, really, to the point of you know, the rent has to be paid.

If I don't pay the rent, I lose the flat, which is kind of how renting goes, isn't it? It's just standard stuff. But it's been less, it's less because I know that this from before I've been evicted from places, and had a few hours notice. That's not really legal anymore.

But you know, in those days, in the 90s, people got away with a lot of stuff. But I've been evicted multiple times been given, like had official evictions with three months notice or two months notice or whatever. And that was at least four times I've had that.

And it's kind of unlikely to happen here. Because if I say to them, look, I can't pay the rent. And this long as I let the council know what's going on, I'm not going to get evicted.

Not like quickly. I mean, the only real reason I suppose I'd get evicted is if they decided to knock down the building. But then they would, I think they'd be obligated to rehouse me.

If that did happen, I might maybe move closer to my dad. So I can be there for him in his twilight years. I mean, you could argue is in his twilight years, because he's nearly 80.

But we generally in my family have long, quite long lives on the Newland side, as it were. My mum then was what 96. My dad's doing really well for his age.

All of my nan, or basically all of my dad's known in my dad's family. Pretty much I mean, some of them, but like his uncles, you know, his aunts, his mum, his dad, his brothers, everything like everyone makes it to 80. Generally, at least.

Which is kind of the average age anyway, I do believe. What's average age? UK. Average age UK.

Dollar. Okay, right. The thing is going to change, isn't it? Because UK.

What's average age? UK. What average do people kind of get to? I don't want to say the word. But the average expectancy for men is 79.

And for females 82.9 years. But if we change it, I'll ask, okay, just England. Wow.

So in England, it's less for men, but it's more for females. According to this. 88.78.8. And females 82.8. That's kind of the same, isn't it? If you met the average age? Oh, okay.

No, I'm wrong. The average age 82.3 years for men 85.8 years females average, broken down by English, Wales, Scotland. So the thing is, what did they, someone said that if you put a stadium, like, you know, the football crowd that were another the boxing crowd that are watching a boxing at Wembley Stadium, and you put in you got the average net worth of each individual person based on, you know, averages go through the whole lot of them.

And it would be potentially minus because all the debts and stuff, but it wouldn't be a lot wouldn't be a lot. Like if you got guests for houses and stuff, so maybe the average net worth might be color 1000 maybe less, I don't know. But if you add Elon Musk, if it was the average would be over a million for each person.

So statistics are all right, but actually doesn't really make it doesn't. I don't know, I always found it a little bit dodgy the way it's used sometimes, or the average this. Yeah, but depends what you're looking at.

The average person spends this amount of money on makeup or this amount of money on whatever. It's like, yeah, but you're dealing with a specific group of people, potentially, depending on what the product is. I remember we used to do averages in the call center.

And I averaged, I think I averaged about 25% quote to sale conversion, 24 to 25% quotation to sales conversion, which was pretty much the highest out of anyone on the sales floor, regardless of whether or not I was a top seller, whether I sold the most, no one got near my conversion. I mean, it's like one in four. It's really good.

We can work it out, you know, 25 by times is 100. Yeah. All right.

And my, but then they should do a conversion of call to sale, which I've always found ridiculous, because we get calls from people saying, you can order a pizza, please. So that would be a call that was of no use, is the random wrong number. Yet, we get penalized.

So my call, my call to sale was 14%. Something like that. When I first started doing when I first started, but around so I started in September 90.

No, September 2001. It was September the ninth. It was a Monday.

And I then probably by April 2002. I kind of became good. It took a while it did took a while because the whole system was new to me.

And I didn't really know what I was doing. And I was getting sales, but I wasn't, you know, I was average. And then by about April, that's when I was suddenly on the leaderboard.

But no one even knew I was there until that time. So it did take and I did say to the person interviewed me twice, why didn't we have to do it twice? I said, because even then, he thought I was a bit too old. At 21, 31 rather, because the place was full of like 1819 year olds, 20 year olds, he thought I was too old.

And I said to him, well, I won't be good straight away. But I will be one of the best. You know, give me, I don't know, a few months, six months or whatever.

I will be one of the top people on the sales floor. And apparently he said to me, because it was a September, October, November, December, January, February, March, yes, about six or seven months. He first of all, he said that he wasn't even gonna give me a job.

And when he did give me the job, he didn't believe that I was going to be any good. He definitely didn't believe I was going to be on the leaderboard of sales. And he, when I was on the leaderboard, he just started laughing.

He said, I can't believe it. I thought you're going to be rubbish. I said, why? Why do you employ me for them? Why? He said, well, because I'm older than you.

He was trying to, he was trying to make out he didn't want to employ me because I was so old. He was older than me. And he said, well, before I give you a go, we needed, we needed seats on bums, basically.

And you're willing to start straight away. You didn't have to give any notice. Because I was living in London, and I just left the job.

I should have given some notice, but I didn't. Because, I mean, basically, the only reason I moved away from London was to be closer to my nan. Because she broke her hip.

And I wanted to, I realised that I wanted to be closer and see her more often and maybe help her if I could, you know, if in any way. I don't think I really helped, but I think she enjoyed me being closer and seeing me more often. And then all I was doing, I visited my nan, she was in a convalescent home.

And she was waiting to go back home, basically. So she couldn't, she couldn't walk at this point. She just had to have some physiotherapy and stuff.

And which he did, and she she was out after a few weeks. During that time of visiting her, I was just on my way back to the train station. And I passed this window, it was like a job, not a job centre, but an agency.

And it said, call centre staff wanted. So I just went in and said, I'm just interested. What is that? She said, and this woman was very excited to meet me.

I thought, oh, she must have heard. I don't know. I said, have you heard? She said, heard what? I said, I don't know.

I haven't really thought it through. She said, were you going to try and do one of those long conversations about nothing again? For your podcast? I said, yeah. She said, well, what went wrong? I said, I don't know.

I just, I kind of became unstuck straight away before I even started it. And she said, yeah, but we're still managing to do something, aren't we? We're still, we're talking about not being able to talk about anything, because you became stuck. I said, that's true.

It's true. So I guess it is. It's something, but it's not.

I don't feel it's quite as creative as it could have been. And she said, well, you can't have everything in life, can you? I said, no, I guess. And she said, are you pleased with it so far, though? I said, what? Pleased with what? She said, the podcast episode that you're doing.

I said, I'm not sure. I think it's been quite a serious one. I haven't really messed around very much in it.

And perhaps I could have been a bit more playful. She said, yeah, you do get like that sometimes. But I think it's okay just to be human, isn't it? I said, who are you calling human? She said, you.

I said, I'm not human. Yes, you are. I said, I'm not.

I'm not. Don't say that. That's an insult.

She laughed. And she said, well, anyway, what do you want? I said, well, I'm just looking at that post in your window about call centre staff wanted. And she said, yeah, just fill this for now.

Actually, what she said is come with me then. And she took me to the building. It was literally like for four doors up or around the corner to the building that was looking, which was Churchill, looking to employ someone, well, probably quite a few people.

And she said, we can fill you for me when we get there. And she took me there, like walked me around the corner. And I didn't have any clothes other than just my normal clothes.

And I said, look, I'm just just wearing normal clothes. She said, that's fine. As long as you got clothes on.

I didn't quite know what she meant by that. Maybe she had heard about my, my past. And anyway, she went into this building and I had a job, I had an interview.

And then he said, yeah, gonna do two interviews. He wanted me to go back. But this time he wanted me to go back smart.

And it was the next day. Or two days later, something like that. So I can't remember the exact thing.

But I went back to my dad's where I was staying. And I said, Daddy, guess what? He said, What? Stop calling me Daddy. You're 31.

I said, I think I might have a job. He said, you got a job? I said, Yeah, that's in London. And this is a job here, just what just up the road from where you live.

And I'll be I'll be closer, I'll be able to sort of be closer to home as it were. He said, Okay. I said, they want me to go back for an interview tomorrow.

But I don't I got no clothes. He said, Yeah, I noticed that. Can you start wearing clothes, please? I said, No.

You know, I'm wearing clothes. He said, Yeah, no, just saying it for fun. If you could start at least wearing underpants.

I said, What am I going to do? I can't go dressed like I did yesterday. Or today early today, because it's hard to keep track of, isn't it? And and my dad said, Well, okay, let's see what we can get you. So he got me some trousers, got me a shirt, his own his own clothes, and tie.

And we were both pretty much kind of the same size ish. I'd say it's probably bigger than me at that point, but not not by a huge amount. And I went and had the interview.

They said, Well, you know, and I think the interview was about 10 or 11 in the morning. By I think two, three o'clock in the afternoon, I've been given the job. And this was on I think, the Wednesday.

And the job started on a Monday. So I went back to London. My dad phoned me, my phone, my dad said, I've got the job.

I'm just heading back to London now because I need to go and collect some stuff. He said, Where's my clothes? I said, I'm wearing them. He said, What am I supposed to wear? I said, Are you serious? Is it all your clothes you've got? Is it? He said, Yes.

I'm standing here in this supermarket with just my long johns on. This is embarrassing. Please bring my clothes back.

I said, I don't worry, I'll be back on Sunday night. He said, Okay, no worries. And I don't know how I got by financially for those first few weeks.

Because I actually stayed in a bed and breakfast. So I don't know how I did it. But I stayed in a bed and breakfast for about two weeks.

The first two weeks of training. And then I had, I found a room was a studio place. And I'm still going, yeah, I'm still going to London the weekend.

So I was, I was doing some work in London at the time. At the weekend, so still doing that for the first, I don't know, a month. I found a place in the YMCA, which was a studio apartment, which was like 63 pound a week or something.

And then I got paid and I probably earned the 700 pound or something for the month. 700 pound. 800.

And when I was earning, I don't know, my basic was 12 and a half thousand a year. Which is a small amount of money, but it was 12 and a half thousand a year. And so monthly, I was taking on probably 800.

Perhaps. And for the first couple of months, I don't think I earned any bonus, or it was minimal. Very minimal.

Oh, yes. But what I did do in November, November, November, maybe October, I did loads of overtime. No, no, I did.

I got my first 1000 pound. So I probably got a little bit of a bonus on top of that. So on the 1st of December, I got paid, it was a Friday in 2001.

Not September, December, and I got paid 1000, just over 1000 pounds take home. And I'd spent the previous months from Sunday onwards to Friday at home in the YMCA. I was forced to take some days off work because I was owed it, which is weird.

I just started. But they said, Yeah, but you're owed, you have to take four days off or five days off or something. Okay.

So I did that. But my money ran out on either the Sunday or the Monday. So I had no food.

All I had was a jar of jam and two packets of crackers, like, you know, dry crackers. And maybe some fruit squash, something like that cordial or something. And that's all I had for Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, four days.

And then on Friday morning, I got up went to the cash machine, and my money was in my bank money, you know, for my job. There really wasn't any reason for me to do that. I could have if I'd have called my dad, if I'd have called a friend, probably if I'd have asked for some help.

But for some reason, I didn't want to I didn't want to ask any help. I just I don't know what it was, I wanted to get through it. I wanted to see what it was like to and it's not a long time.

It seemed like a long time. But it was you know, one little pot of jam. And just crackers.

That was it. I mean, I didn't. I mean, that's that's a snack.

Now. I wonder if I lost any weight. And I was reading a book.

Oh, what's his name? It's a really, really, really famous book. Okay, I'm gonna most famous book about logotherapy. It's the bloke who invented logotherapy.

Man's Search for Beaning. And via Viktor Frankl. And I read that book.

And if people if there's anyone out there listening to this, that hasn't read that book. I really do recommend reading it. It's not an easy read.

But it's this is powerful. Very powerful. And I read that.

And it's very hard. It was very hard for me to feel sorry for myself. While I was reading that book.

It really was. So yeah, it was, it was interesting. It's quite a thick book as well.

But I read that during that period. And all I did was just eat jam and crackers. I drunk water as well.

Have a tap, which is something I'm not don't normally do. Oh, oh, look, I wonder the I was all updated. Now.

This is the sound cloud. So done. That's weird.

Why is it doing that for? It seems to have gone out of it. Windsor. Oh, it's because I haven't done this black screen with white writing.

And I don't know why it's doing that. Because I struggle with that kind of screen. Why would you? Why? Doesn't make sense.

And maybe there's a way of changing it. There must be a screen developers settings. We're going to settings.

Oh, yes. Change theme lights. Why would I want black, a dark screen? It's almost, it's just really, although the white screen is quite bright now after looking at the black one, but just seems a bit a bit like Oh, why? What's that all about? He's been very patient waiting.

I don't know what he's waiting for. Really don't know. Anyway.

Yeah, then I did that job. I don't know why I ended up talking about that job. But I did.

And now I'm going to go get myself some food. Because I need to eat man. Get myself some food, my dear.

So thank you for listening. Remember to be kind to yourself because you deserve to be happy. And be gentle with yourself.

You deserve to feel safe. Lots of love. Bye

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