(music) #1236 Only 2 Winners - Let Me Bore You To Sleep (16th November 2024)

Hello, hello and welcome to Let Me Bore You To Sleep. My name's Jason Newland and as per usual, just as I began to make the podcast, screaming people in the garden began their screaming for the day. Yeah, I'm so lucky, I'm so lucky to have that noise to listen to, that beautiful music of really loud people shouting three inches away from each other and other people screaming.

Oh, it's brilliant, what a lovely start to the day. It's almost like I dread the day being sunny because they'll be out there. If it's raining, they don't come out.

It's, oh, it must be like the old days, you know, where people get scared for sundown because the vampires come out. It's like that. Anyway, on a less positive note, please only listen when you can safely close your eyes.

My website is jasonnewland.com. My Facebook page is Jason Newland's Boring Group and this recording will be available in six different versions. One without music, five hours and ten hours without music, one with music and five and ten hours with music. So I'm here with Vinnie, he's just been licking my feet, so that was nice.

So I'm going to talk about the fight, the fight that people, you know, there's only been two fights in my memory, more recent-ish memory, where the general public who, the non-boxing public, the I'm assuming they're non-boxing fans, but just like the general public has kind of caught people's interest. And the first one would have been, well, yeah, for non-boxing, I guess the Mayweather McGregor fight, which is on my birthday about, what, seven, eight years ago.

Was it 2017? Blimey, it's quite a while ago now.

And then this weekend, the Mike Tyson against Jake Paul fight. I'm going to use those words very loosely. Yeah, so it was on Netflix.

And for those in America, and that kind of area, time zone, I mean, that kind of time zone, so maybe Canada, America, Mexico, places like that, you didn't have it quite as bad as people in the UK and kind of Europe, because the fight was on about five in the morning. The show started roughly one o'clock in the morning. Had it been in the evening, late afternoon, up to the evening, I possibly would have enjoyed it more, because it was just, it was more, I think it was more about the build-up and the excitement and the BS, you know, the lies, the manipulation of the general public.

You know, it was kind of about that, and it was fun. However, however, I said before the fight that I didn't think Mike Tyson should even be in the ring. Not that I have control over what he does, obviously I don't.

I just didn't think it was a good idea that someone of his age should be. I actually personally think that a better, more exciting fight would have been Mike Tyson having his trilogy with Evander Holyfield. That would have been interesting, because of the history of them two, and you could argue that that second fight between him and Evander Holyfield was the most famous heavyweight fight, at least of my generation.

People in the 60s possibly would argue saying, well actually the fight between Ali and, what's his name, Cooper, Henry Cooper. So that fight when he knocked Ali down, and there was a big conspiracy about how long the fight, you know, the break lasted, and did Ali's manager or trainer cut his gloves, and apparently he admitted to doing it. I don't know if he did or not.

I didn't read it with my own eyes. So there was that, but as far as like dramas surrounding heavyweights, Mike Tyson probably has it summed up. I think some of the things he did outside of the ring, as well as inside of the ring, made him, yeah, kind of added to securing him as being very notorious and infamous, as well as famous as well.

I think that would have been a more interesting fight, or even a rematch between him and Lennox Lewis. That would have been less interesting, and the good thing about Lennox Lewis is he hasn't come out of retirement to do anything like that. Both Holyfield has, and so obviously Tyson's done it twice, Holyfield's done it once.

Holyfield got batted around, and it got stopped. Tyson fought Roy Jones a few years back, and that wasn't awful, wasn't good, but it wasn't awful, and Mike Tyson did look fairly fit in that one, but it was an exhibition, so he, you know, that wasn't so bad. It was interesting, and they're both former heavyweight champions, so that was, you know, that was all right, but I think this, I've just been seeing a lot of social media comments about it, and there's a new, I don't know if it's a new thing, but people post, make posts, which they don't say what they're talking about.

Do we all assume that we've just got one mind now? We've all been to the same party? It's like everyone seems to assume that we've all been to the same thing, the same event. It's like everyone's been to the Mike Tyson fight, not everyone, but people that are posting on Facebook, for example, they've all been to the Mike Tyson fight, and all the way back from the and they're posting, well that was rubbish, that was pointless, that was a waste of time, that, so, you know, and everyone knows each other, and they all know they've been to the same event.

That would make sense, because they're all talking about the same thing, but I go on to Facebook, and I'm seeing these comments, and I don't know what they're talking about, and they've been doing that with the, some political stuff over the last few weeks, just making comments, and like, what are you referring to? Is there just one mind? Is it just, and I'm not part of it?

Maybe.

It's almost like I'm not part of society. It's like, what are you talking, you're saying something, what are you referencing to? Because believe it or not, that's the opposite to communication. Just start putting some random thing, and thinking everyone's going to understand what you're saying.

No, that's the opposite to good communication. That's the opposite to what Facebook was for. I'm guessing, I don't know, I mean, you would argue Facebook's just there for making money, but I think originally it was to bring people together and for communication.

Now, it's for a lot of older people to moan, and all the young people have moved on. They're on Instagram, is it? Or whatever one's TikTok. So it's just left with all the, all the parents that went on Facebook to spy on their kids 18 years ago, and now they're left on there with each other, moaning.

It seems to be what it is, half the time. When I joined Facebook, I was only like 35, 36. I was still too old for Facebook back then, but I joined because I wanted to try and promote what I was doing.

You know, the whole internet, online recordings and stuff, and the videos. But I even knew people that would, they'd say to me, because I've known, I know some adults over the years, and they'd say, my daughter's blocked me. Why? I don't know.

I just, I went to ask to join her, and she just blocked me. Okay, and there was a period when people didn't know they could have their profiles private, or maybe they weren't able to, and they changed the, changed the platform. So parents did go on and spy on their kids and see what they're up to, which I do understand a bit, I guess.

You'd want to know, make sure your kids are safe, so you know, I'm not judging that. But then kids just realized they could, and I say kids, just young people of any age really, sort of even people in their teens and their early 20s, I don't want their parents to see what they're doing at university, or who they're doing it with. It's just, but then why are you posting it on social media?

And that was another thing, it's like, almost like I'm posting it, but it's private.

It's not private. Yeah, it's private. It's just, just with me and my friends.

How many people? Three thousand. That's not private. If you're posting something to three thousand people, it's no longer private.

It is public property. No, it's not because, because it's just for people on my friends list. Okay, let's put it together.

Everything that's ever been on the internet stays on the internet forever. Everything you post on Facebook stays on the internet forever. It's a bit scary actually.

I think everyone's posted stuff that they don't really want to be re-seen 10 years later. I made some weird videos in the past. Some would argue I still do, but that's what I say to you.

So yeah, I found that a bit weird, the whole like, there's been posts. Well, that was rubbish then, wasn't it? On Facebook. That was rubbish.

He's too old! And other people were saying, oh, Tyson let Jake Paul off. He couldn't, they're still holding on to the idea that a 50 year old, 58 year old man could beat up a 27 year old man who is physically fit. Like training as a professional boxer for the last five years.

Had what, nine fights, nine or ten fights as a professional and he's big, strong in his prime. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that Mike Tyson could, he'd be a handful for anyone outside of the ring because he's, he probably wouldn't be fighting cleanly, would he? If it was outside of the ring, he'd probably, he may well completely demolish Jake Paul. He'd probably grab him and just rip his, bite him probably.

So based on that, these statements, I thought he was gonna win. And then someone said, oh, that was a waste of money. What money? It was free.

Well, it was free for subscribers. It didn't cost anything extra. Wasn't $24.99 like a lot of pay-per-view or $30 or I don't know how much it is in America.

I think it's a, it costs more in America than it does in the UK for pay-per-view. But then, you know, $70 I think sometimes. I'm pretty sure they had some, I'm going to check this out now.

I want to, I'm going to, it's going to bug me unless I find out how much, right. I'm just going to, I'm going to search. Why can't I just search? Okay.

How much is pay-per-view view sports? Okay. Boxing. Boxing.

Right. Okay. So it says there, it's not unusual for a significant boxing pay-per-view pay-per-view to cost between $49.99 and $74.99. So $74.99 would be what? £65 perhaps.

Okay. So I don't think there's probably a person in this country that I live in that would pay £65 to watch a boxing event. Unless they were going to it live.

So I'm amazed that people in America would pay that much. Perhaps because everyone's been, because pay-per-view has been around a long time in America. It's relatively new here.

But isn't it, don't you think it's strange? Like, you're in America. Okay. And if you are in America, and you're paying $74.99. My next question.

Okay. So absolutely same question. But okay, right.

This is going to annoy Americans. Not doing it for that reason. But I know what the answer is going to be.

No. Okay. No.

I was gonna say how much does it cost in Mexico? Because I'm pretty sure I heard that they pay a lot less in Mexico than they do in America. The Canelo Alvarez fight between him and El Edgar Belanga, which was in September. $89.99. See, there is no way.

Literally nowhere. I think it costs £24. Or maybe £19.

There's no way they wouldn't get away with it here. Isn't it strange, isn't it? But then they probably wouldn't get away with the petrol prices or the gas gas prices. You call it gas over there.

But petrol prices, they wouldn't get away with that in America to what they do here. They wouldn't get away with the cost of gas and electricity in America as they do here. Because we're one of the highest, highest payers in the world at the moment.

So I guess it works around isn't it? It moves around depending where you are and what they what this is what the government can get you used to doing, get used to paying. I mean, without boxing, this is quite an adult, you know, violent thing and that. But I don't know if you've noticed, but I see on YouTube videos of police when I see on the news and that police holding down rioters and that they're still kneeling on people's necks.

Haven't stopped doing that. They were doing it before. You know, the big case that happened a few years ago, and they're still doing it.

Kneeling on someone's neck is never going to be a good thing. I mean, it's good if you want them to pass out and not move. But they might not even move again if you do it for too long, or too hard.

And I realized quite a while ago that when they had these cop shows, they have them in this country as well. I know, do you have a show in America called cops? We have like the police, the force or something or whatever. There's been different shows over the years.

Just follows the police, follows them stopping people, follows them knocking on people's doors to arrest them and that. And they go full on now. There's no gentle, gentle.

If they're coming to arrest someone, especially if it's for a serious crime, which I kind of understand why they have to be ready in that. But they go full on and arrest them in quite a violent way. It's not a nice way they do it.

It's not gentle. Even if the person isn't, like, you know, resisting arrest, they won't even give them a chance. They'll bat the door in, grab them, chuck them to the floor, kneel on them and just it's the same way with the rioters in the summer.

There was people that were in the crowd. And the police were just going in and just targeting one person, which would have been scary, I imagine, to suddenly have 12 police with truncheons all like coming at you at the same time. And then they surround the person as well so that no one can film what they're doing.

No one can film them kneeling on their neck and probably punching them. It's like, oh, the police don't punch people. Have you seen, have you seen the the mugshots of criminals? What percentage do you think of mugshots of criminals? Do they not, are they not covered in bruises and cuts on their face? Have you not noticed that? It's like, even here, someone was and did like, they're arrested for something that's not even a violent crime and you see that they're kind of just covered in bruises.

And the mugshot is taken as soon as they get to the police station, I think. I'm not an expert on this. They don't wait till six months later.

Oh, I forgot to give you a mugshot. Oh, well, that's lucky you didn't escape otherwise we wouldn't know what you looked like. Always covered in bruises and not always, but generally.

But like proper, like they'd been in a 12-round fight, you know, boxing match, really injured. Police. Bless them.

Well, I still want them to be there if I need them. Never have been, but I hope, you know, I've never had a problem with the police. They've always been respectful to me generally and I've always tried to be respectful to them.

It's just a hard, it's one of the hardest jobs that you'd ever have in the world, being a police. Mind you, being a bus driver as well, that's a hard job. But being police, and it's weird because if you're a police, you don't get any, there's no love for them.

There is in the moment, maybe if someone's been, you know, saved and stuff. But it's weird because I think you've got an ambulance driver or paramedic, they spend their whole time saving lives. That's their job, to save lives and they don't do any harm.

Sometimes they're not there in time and they get hassled and attacked and all kinds of stuff. But the police also save lives and also ruin lives. So they kind of, they might be ruining a life just by doing their job.

You know, the person's ruined their own life, but it's just kind of weird, isn't it? It's a mixture. It's like that policeman, off-duty policeman that grabbed hold of my friend outside the petrol station. He wasn't involved in the whole thing.

Basically, he went to the petrol station. His nephew decided to go and steal some beers, which in this day and age, in this country, is not really a huge illegal offence. It is illegal, but it's not a big thing.

He didn't he didn't do anything violent and he didn't, and it was just some probably 10 quid's worth of beers, lagers, and he walks out. The manager comes out and tries to tackle him. Why? They got him on camera.

Just call the police. You know, it's not why you have to go tackle him. We dropped all the beers on the floor.

They all went burst and popped and that. And this off-duty policeman, who was either driving past or getting petrol, jumped out of his car and started tackling him. So what my friend's nephew did, because he was the one with the beers, he put his hands up and he just laughed at this policeman.

He said, you can't, because he was trying to take him to the ground. And he was just laughing at him. He was saying, well you can't, because he's a lot bigger and stronger and younger.

You can't, you can't take me to the ground. Just like, it's a joke. But he wasn't being violent.

He didn't do anything to him. He wasn't abusive, verbally, just like, go away, leave me alone. Because he was drunk.

But he didn't, he could have, he could have hurt the policeman, but he didn't. And he's put his hands up, and I put my hands up now actually. And the policeman was trying to push him into the road.

In fact, he was pushing him into the road. And because, you know, he still had some, had some strength, this policeman. And that's when my friend got involved.

Because he stood back. He didn't get involved at all. Because he didn't even know my, his cousin or his nephew was going to be doing what he did.

Because he wouldn't have gone to the petrol station had he known that. Because that was our regular place that we went to every day. No way in the world would we go with someone that was going to blatantly steal something.

Because then we get associated with that. And we were the two of the only people from the estate that weren't banned from the place at that time. A lot of people were banned for stealing or aggression.

We weren't because we didn't do that. So crazy. And so my friend went over and just like, I saw it on camera because I went to court with him and the lawyer showed me, the solicitor, lawyer, whatever he was.

I saw the footage from the petrol station. And you could actually see, because my friend was drunk as well. So he wasn't really in the right, you know, he, he, he's, he's, from his perspective, he told me this, he just, he saw his nephew being pushed into the road.

And that was it. It's a very, very busy road that leads to the motorway. And you know, everyone was staring, watching as well.

So people weren't didn't have their wits about them to be stopping the car, you know, because that can cause accidents itself. Can't let people, what do they call it? There's a word for it, isn't there? Shoddy driving. And so my friend walked up to him and you can see that he tripped.

Like my friend, he tripped. And he, he, he went, the policeman said he lunged forward and headbutted him. He tripped and fell forward because he was drunk.

And he didn't headbutt him. He might have like grazed him or like banged into him a little bit. It was not a headbutt.

And I didn't get a chance to go into court to tell my side and to explain what I would have said to him. If he'd have headbutted that man, his face would have been split open, or his head would have been split open, or both their heads would have been split open. That's not, you know, it's not how a head, because he wouldn't have done it lightly.

He would have done it to hurt the bloke, but he didn't. And he didn't even know he was a policeman. All he wanted was the bloke to leave his nephew alone.

He didn't want, he wasn't in the right frame to having, having an aggressive fight. And also he'd spent the last 12 years keeping out trouble purposely because he knew, well, he kept telling me that he'd go back to prison if he ever got into a problems, which I didn't really believe, but it was, it was right. Because they did actually try and put him back in prison.

Couldn't believe it. So that's all I could see. So he tripped, he clearly tripped.

But of course, the, uh, the prosecutors couldn't see that. I could see it. It's, it's almost, it's like you can't not see it.

Just look at his feet. Look, he trips, he stumbles forward. And if he meant to headbutt you, it's just weird.

If you ever watch boxing, which I have done for decades, even accidental headbutt on someone that is used to getting punched in the face, like, you know, every day for decades, for like 20 years during their training and stuff, they used to get hit in the face and in the head. A head, an accidental headbutt can absolutely, can ruin the fight, can end the fight early. So the idea that he headbutted this policeman twice, apparently, which was just, and he was concussed and he had to go to hospital.

It was just lies. It's a shame. I don't know why.

I mean, he might've been hit. Maybe I don't know, but he definitely wasn't purposefully headbutted because apart from anything else, that's not what he did. My friend would punch.

He didn't headbutt. He was a puncher. He was a boxer, ex-boxer.

So that's what, in that kind of situation, like in a defense situation, if he was going to have a fight. And something else that people didn't know about him, he would let people punch him. Do you believe that? Yeah.

I've seen him. I thought, again, that was a lie. Not a lie, but he told me that that happened in the past.

So some bloke with a dog that was being aggressive towards his dog, Logie. And Logie was kind of being aggressive back and this bloke punched my friend in the face, like three times. And he said to the bloke, if you do that again, I'm going to have to hurt you.

And the bloke walked off. So he wouldn't, he'd stand and take it. And I've seen him take it.

He did exactly the same thing shortly before he died. Someone attacked him and he just stood there and let them do it because he didn't want to go to prison. He was on, what do they call it? Suspended sentence for a year.

So he knew if he did anything, he was going to go back to prison. He was going to serve his, I think they wanted to put him inside for a year. So he literally, that's what he would do.

He would allow someone to punch him. So there's no way, first of all, he didn't headbutt people. That wasn't his thing.

And he'd only punch if he was really, really pushed. It wasn't his normal thing. He wasn't an aggressive, he used to be, but he wasn't aggressive anymore.

He just wanted a peaceful life. And he, so the way they got portrayed him, as if he was the same person he'd been 12 years ago, before I'd met him. And back then he was a very aggressive person.

I didn't know him back then. And he kept telling me, I can't do anything wrong because I'll go back to prison. They want me in prison.

And I said, like, it sounded a bit like conspiracy to me. But when I got into court, they wanted him in prison. I couldn't believe it.

There was three judges. I don't know why they had three judges. They had three of these judges and two of them wanted him inside, like there and then.

And this was his first hearing, because I was actually in there. Not the first hearing. Yeah, I was, it was pretty much a shut and dunk case.

It was like, they got him on camera. It looked that he's a off-duty emergency worker, which is, that's one of the most, that's so serious crime to do. And, and then they believed everything he said against my friend.

Most of what happened, happened off the camera. So when they moved outside of the camera, that's when apparently my friend hurt him, which is kind of ironic because my friend did lose it a little bit. But the bloke kept trying to take him down to the ground.

I don't know if he once wanted a little grope or something. I don't know. But he, when I got there, his cousin left, came and told me, came and got me, came in with, with the dog, said, Luke's being held down at the, at the petrol station.

He's been held down by three men. I said, well, why are you here then? He said, I don't know. I said, why, what happened? He said, I don't know, just, they just, I stole some beers and then they started holding him down.

Like they didn't tell me. It was a very short conversation. He said, don't go there.

I said, what do you mean don't go there? You should still be there. What do you mean don't go there? So I did. I went straight there.

When I got there, there was two people holding him down. And it was a really big bloke holding his legs, sitting on his legs. And I just, and then it was this other bloke that was, looked like he was kneeling on his chest.

So my friend's screaming. It was a mixture of angry words and I can't breathe. And I know that's, that's almost like a comical thing to some people now.

Like it's the first thing people say if they're held down by the police. I can't breathe. I can't.

Well, he had COPD and asthma. He could hardly walk the journey between where I live and a petrol station without collapsing. He did it.

And the reason he did it, he went with people. That's why he went with his cousin, because he wanted to go out. But he struggled to go out on his own without collapsing.

Constantly. I remember he came in one day and I met him out the front and he collapsed into my arms. He'd been to the petrol station, got back and he just literally collapsed in my arms.

It's like, where's your asthma pump? It was in his flat. So I managed to get him in his flat and that. Another time, he knocked on my door.

What's up? He's like, I can't breathe. I said, all right, where's your asthma pump? It's downstairs. He had his coat on, so I know he'd been out.

So why didn't you go into your flat? So I just, I had the key. I went down, got the asthma pump, came back upstairs. He, he inhaled it and everything.

Had some water and he got his composure back after about 10, 15 minutes. And I said, why, why didn't you just get, go into your flat and just use the asthma pump? And he said, I didn't know if I'd make it. I didn't want to be lying there on my own and collapsing and have no one with me, no one to help me.

Which makes me feel very sad now when I think about it. Anyway, this is supposed to be a nice, nice story, making fun of Mike Tyson. I would never make fun of Mike Tyson.

Love you, Mikey. Love you. It was ridiculous.

Absolutely ridiculous. It was just, the show itself was good. And the main, the co-main event, which should have been the main event really, but the co-main event was phenomenal.

One of the best fights I've seen. It was an all-female fight, but forget that. It was absolutely, Katie Taylor and Serrano, just wow.

It was, it was, I was tired watching it. And so, you know, that was good. It was on Netflix.

So all I did was just resubscribe because I had unsubscribed, but I thought, well, I'll resubscribe, watch that. And then I'll probably watch a, watch a show that I haven't seen before you know, try and like binge watch a series or something. And the problem, because it was on late at night, well, early hours in the morning for the UK people, I didn't know if I was going to be able to get up in time.

So I went online to see whether or not they were going to reshow it, whether it was going to be a live event and that was it, or they were going to leave it on Netflix. And I was reassured, reassured by Google. I had a little chat with Google and they said, yeah, it's going to be on there for subscribers to watch back if they miss it live.

So that was my backup plan. It's really hard for, I think for a boxing fan, especially someone that was around when Mike Tyson was in his prime, when he first kind of came onto the scene. It's, I think it's quite difficult for those people.

And they'll be my age and older because I was only 16 when he won the world title. It's hard to not watch it. It's hard not to watch what he does, just out of, it's not loyalty, it's interest, I suppose.

It would be, it was probably the same for Muhammad Ali when he fought Holmes, Larry Holmes. He shouldn't have fought Larry Holmes. And that was, you know, that was, mind you, the thing is, he was world champion in a short time before that.

So it wasn't that far off it being a silly thing to do. Let me just check this out. So Holmes, Ali, Ali, okay.

Okay, fair enough. So I'll just go to Holmes. There's only one Holmes in that.

No, Sherlock Holmes. Nope. Larry Sherlock.

Larry Holmes was first. Oh, Larry. Isn't it weird if you say Larry? It doesn't sound like a boxer, does it? Larry.

And the new heavyweight champion in the world. It's Larry. It doesn't, doesn't really fit.

It's weird. So Larry Holmes, 69 wins out of 75 fights, 44 KOs. And you know what's weird? Even though he got absolutely battered by Mike Tyson, no one was ever able to hurt him again when he came back.

So I think he was, he was influenced by George Foreman to come back and make a, you know, perhaps, I mean, did get to fight for the world title again for Evander Holyfield for all of the titles back in 92. So he did. And he was beating good people as well along the way.

But, and he fought for the world title again against Oliver McCall in 95. Blimey. And he retired in 2002.

That's a long, a long time. 2002. And he started his professional career in 1973.

Wow. 83, 93. Blimey.

That's got to be one of the longest boxing careers ever. But anyway, he, when he fought Ali, which was 79, was it? 1979. Ali, Ali.

1977, 78. Muhammad Ali. 1980, October.

So Muhammad Ali, let's have a look at his boxing career. A professional boxing record. So it was two years since he was last world champion, heavyweight champion of the world.

And he hadn't lost it. So he'd won the world title three times, Ali. He lost it to Leon Spinks in February 1978.

And he won it back in 1978, September. And then he didn't fight again. I don't know why.

I don't know if he retired. And then two years later, he fought Holmes. Now, in heavyweight years, bearing in mind, bearing in mind, he was 38 years old.

That's not old these days for a heavyweight boxer. There's older boxers out there. So it wasn't really a mismatch on paper.

In reality, it was because Larry Holmes was the young lion. And he went on to be one of the greatest heavyweights of all time. One of them.

Yeah. So I don't know what my point was on that one. Yeah, those people that loved Ali would have tuned into that fight.

Because even though he'd retired and he was nearly 40. But 38, Mike Tyson's 58, 20 years older than Ali was when he got beaten by old Holmes, Sherlock. Blimey.

I remember watching that fight. Vaguely. I mean, I was 10.

So it's a long time ago. But remember watching that? Yeah. It was a it was a worldwide event.

And even then thinking, why are they letting him take so much punishment? I might not have articulated it in that word. In that kind of language, it might have been. He he's been hurt.

It's been hurted. Why do you keep punching him? Why does he keep being punched? But it didn't have an emotional effect on me because I didn't know who the hell Muhammad Ali was. Meant nothing to me.

I was being told that he was a superstar. And during my childhood, I did. I used to see him on TV shows and stuff like that because he was a was a global superstar and probably the only global sports superstar up to that point in history that was known all over the world.

There probably wasn't anyone else that was that famous. I mean, some may argue about Pele and, you know, Kevin Keegan. McEnroe.

That's that was the era though, wasn't it? The 80s, early 80s, late 70s, early 80s, when tennis was massive. Again, some people might say it's still messy. No, you don't you don't understand.

Tennis is not what it used to be. It might be better. The players might be better than they were back then.

I don't know. I can't. I'm not a tennis player.

I don't I don't know much about the game. What I can assure you is tennis is not as big as it used to be in the late 70s and early 80s. It was a super sport.

It was the stars were huge stars. And so you have Bjorn Borg, Connors and McEnroe, of course, huge, huge celebrities, McEnroe, especially big, big, like antihero. In this country, snooker was huge.

I would say that snooker was even bigger than boxing. Football has always been the biggest. Nothing's ever matched football in this country during my lifetime.

I don't know about other countries. I think of other countries cricket is bigger than any other sport. And I think rugby would also be bigger than one of the biggest sports, especially in places like India and Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, Pakistan, possibly parts of Africa.

Cricket huge, huge. And rugby huge in places like South Africa, in all over the world, but I think especially but Australia, New Zealand, but then Australia have got their own and their own kind of football, which is rugby. Is it Australian rules football? I was I got it wrong.

I thought they meant that they were in charge. But what it meant is, it's their own rules. Not today.

They rule football. We now rule football. Australia rules football.

We're in charge. We're the boss. And I used to watch that in the middle 80s Australian rules football.

It was very popular. Used to be on a Sunday morning on television. And they used to beat the living, they literally would be having full on fistfights on the pitch.

And that's the reason why it was popular. In this country, people, there's a quite a new sensation to see people. It was almost like it had no rules.

It had the wrong shape, shape ball for football, obviously. Exit a rugby ball, which is the same shape as American football. So but in England, football, and in Spain and Italy and France, all throughout Europe, and most of the world, football is a round ball, where they kick and they try and get into the goals either side of the pitch.

And they'll wear shorts and run around with their little perp bottoms wobbling around. And that's and they get paid extortionate amounts of money for basically doing what little children like to do. So they get paid millions a week for being kids.

And then they get into trouble for being immature when they're off the pitch. Well, they're kids. If you do that for a living, you're not exactly going to be particularly adult, are you? Because you don't need to be.

Because you're you're playing for a living. You're playing a game. And good luck to them.

That's what I say. If you can do what you love doing, and actually earn a living and earn a good living out of it, good on you. And if that involves kicking a ball around, if that's what you like, good.

I never liked it. I never could never really see the point of it. I could see the point of it as in supposed to get into the goal.

I understand that. Which is why the only real the part I like in the football is during the major events when it goes to penalties. Because that is interesting.

That is it. That's exciting. But that's the only exciting part of the whole game for me is seeing the person I think it should just be penalties.

Have a game which is just penalties. Have the whole world come together and take turns. So each match would just be penalties.

So France and it just be lucky dip France against Belgium. And then whoever wins that and just have have like lost them. Then the next one will be England versus USA and then Germany versus I don't know Spain or whatever.

But just penalties. But maybe 10 penalties. And that'll be it.

So and if you don't win a penalty, it keeps going until they win. Because let's face it, what do you do with a draw? You go to penalties. So if you do a draw of penalties, what do you do? There has to come a time though, I think what will happen is if after they've done the penalties, and if they both save the goals, then they have to go back maybe 10 foot and take it from there.

Something like that. So and it has to be a different person every time it's kicked. So I can't have the same person come back and kick it again.

Maybe have a different person in goal every time. So I have 10 goalies and 10 kickers. Just call it penalties.

See if anyone copies this idea for a TV show. So I think it'd be quite popular. I own the rights.

I own the rights. Okay. Today is Saturday, the 16th of November 2024.

I own the rights to this, this could be worth hundreds of pounds for me. Do you think you could do an entire World Cup in one day? One afternoon? And it'd be a knockout stage, wouldn't it? It'd probably take what, two, three hours to get through the whole thing. Make it into a big deal.

Maybe have, you know, a band playing. Not like trumpets and cymbals and stuff, but you know, like a big act. And you could do this thing once a year.

I just think it'd be quite cool. Get rid of all the running around. So yeah.

So anyway, boxing. I think my issue, well I said right at the start, right at the beginning that I learned something when Mike Tyson got beaten the first time in 1990 against Buster Douglas. I believed before that time that Mike Tyson was invincible.

Bearing in mind, I was 18 years old. I, I believed, I guess I believed what I was hearing and I didn't have enough life experience to realize that. I didn't really understand the aging process, but not that was an issue with him.

But I didn't, I didn't realize that nobody is invincible and everybody will lose eventually. You have to keep doing something. If you're a boxer, if you keep fighting, you will eventually lose.

You might, you might retire a winner. But if you kept going, you would eventually lose. When the bloke lost the other day and he'd been a champion for years, it just, it just happens.

You just, someone else younger, stronger, and wanting it more, hungrier when it comes along. And that's always been, I think, an issue with, with boxers. I've heard it, people talk about it, that if you've got someone fighting for their family, you know, they're fighting because they've got a newborn baby and that's why they want to win a world title so they can, especially the lower weights where there's not a huge amount of money, unless you're famous.

So they fight and they get that world title and that money is going to be enough, maybe, to pay for their house, or pay the mortgage off, like get it all done. So it's life-changing money. It might be 50 grand or 60 grand or 100 grand, which is a lot of money to the average person, but for a world title, for a world champion, it's not a lot of money.

You'd think they'd all be getting millions, but they don't. If heavyweights do, Canelo does, that he gets at least 20, 30 million a fight, but he's a superstar, so hey. So there's that hunger.

They want to feed their children, want to feed, make their, help their family out, but then a few years later, they are earning the big money. Maybe they've unified the titles and they've become well-known, and they are earning maybe a million, two million a fight, and they do that for a few years, and then someone else comes along that's got a new baby, living in a rented accommodation in a council house, somewhere they don't like, and they've got a part-time, they're working as a plumber, but what they want to do is actually plumb as well, a good earning job, isn't it?

But they might be working in a job they don't like, and they know that if they win, not only would the world title be about winning the world title, but it will change their life, change their family life, whether it's a female or a male, it would change their life in a way that even if they don't earn a huge amount of money for that fight, the next fight will be worth a lot more.

So they're hungry, like almost literally or emotionally hungry, and there's that person at the top that's maybe been there for a few years, and he's not hungry anymore, or she's not hungry anymore.

They might still be great, but there also might be something missing, the desire. I mean, I did hear one boxer say after he got defeated, he said, I don't like getting punched anymore. I don't like getting punched in the face anymore, it's not as much fun as it used to be, and even current world champions, or like Tyson Fury, he's not, I know he was a world champion until a while back, but he fights again next month, but even he talks about like getting punched in the face for money, and he doesn't particularly like getting punched in the face, which is understandable, really, can you consider who's punching him?

It's a very much a boxing related podcast, this isn't it today? So, okay, I was going to dissect the fight.

Those that saw it don't need it dissected, and those that didn't see it probably don't care. It was really, if you thought Mike Tyson, that a 20 year old Mike Tyson was going to come out of the corner of the ring, and demolish Jake Paul, then well, you're wrong. I don't want to use the word delusional, but you were wrong.

I'd have loved that to happen. That would have made, if that happened, I would probably wouldn't be able to, I'd probably be smiling for about a week, because it'd just be funny, especially how cocky Jake Paul is, and arrogant and all that, but at the same time, he's the one that put this all together. It's very successful, and he clearly knows what he's doing, but I think my summing it up would be, Jake Paul, Jake Paul didn't want to get hit by Tyson.

I could see that, but I don't think Jake Paul wanted to get hit by anyone. I don't think he's, he, you know, I don't think he like, he's a boxer, which he is a professional boxer now, but I don't think he's, I don't think he wanted to get full-on punched by Tyson. Because he's still going to hurt anyone if he manages to really land one, but he couldn't land one.

Tyson couldn't land anything, really, because he was moving around a lot, and which I think anyone should do, and I think Tyson looked frustrated in there. I don't think he even wanted to be there, and I'm not sure how healthy it was for him to be in there, emotionally, just because he's worked so hard on himself to calm down as a person, and to, he's a very spiritual and very wise, very intelligent person, and I don't know how useful it was to go in back, because you can never go back, really, that's what I realized years ago, you can never really go back.

That's why in some ways, I'm with what I'm doing here, I'm going forward, because I know that if I ever stop doing this, let's say I stop doing it for a year, I say I'll have a break, I won't come back to it.

Well, actually, to be fair, I don't know, because I have had breaks in the past, but it wouldn't be like this, you know, you can't go back, so if I sort of took two, couple of years, three years off doing this, and then thought, I think I'll go back to making podcasts, no, I don't think it would happen, it wouldn't feel the same, it'd feel weird, it feels familiar, because I do it so regularly, but it wouldn't, I don't think I'd enjoy it, I don't think I'd see the point of it, I still struggle to

see the point of it sometimes, but I, you can't go back, it's almost like, if my friend said, oh, I've brought back the comedy club, do you want to be the DJ?

My first answer would be, yes, of course I do, but the reality is, there won't be, behind that DJ booth, won't be someone in their late 20s, there'll be someone in their early, mid 50s, and I'm not sure how much I would enjoy it anymore, doing that, because I haven't done it for absolutely years, like 20, 23 years, it's the last time I did that, it's kind of longer than it has been for Mike Tyson, since he was, like had a last professional fight, before this one, no, I can't go back,

that's why I could never, I didn't go back to the town I used to live in, because I thought about it, but you can't go back, it's this, can't go back in time, can't redo anything, all we could do is go forward, so yeah, I think it was, it was interesting, but ultimately, the only winners was Mike Tyson and Jake Paul, really, financially, and probably Netflix, but I'm not sure how much Netflix, how many people actually watched it, I don't know, it wouldn't have done Netflix any harm, I don't think,

if it had gone bad, then, yeah, it would have caused, it might cause Netflix problems, you know, if, because I did, I was watching Mike Tyson, I was thinking, well, he's clearly out of breath, he's hardly moved, but he's out of breath, and a lot of that could be that, there's so much pressure, isn't there, be it on him, a huge crowd, I think there was like 70 odd, 75,000 people, in the audience, plus at least 30 or 40 people watching it on Netflix, maybe a few more than that,

probably millions and millions, and it was just like, oh, okay, because that's another thing, the only opponent, Jake Paul can honestly, he can say, the one thing he can hold his hand up and say, and it's truthful, is two things, he's earned the most money out of any of Mike Tyson's opponents fighting him, true, the second one, other than the age gap, that's an obvious one, the second one would be that he's the only fighter that faced Mike Tyson that smiled when he was in the ring with him,

because none of Mike Tyson's opponents smiled, even if they were cocky before they got in the ring, they didn't smile once they were in the ring, even the ones that beat Tyson didn't smile when they were in the ring, because everybody got a hard time from Tyson, that's what seems to be forgotten, even the people that beat Mike Tyson, really took, they had a hard time, because they had to, they had to overcome the first few rounds, where they were being, they got hurt, every boxer that went in the ring with Mike Tyson,

when he was like a professional fighter, everybody got hurt by him, even those that won, even when he was past his prime, I was going to say sold by date, that's a bit rude isn't it, even when he was past his prime, which he hit his prime at 20, he was past his prime for a long time before he retired, yet he was still able to demolish most people in the heavyweight division, so what's next do you reckon, Lennox Lewis, there isn't anyone is there, maybe Holyfield, Holyfield and Tyson,

the third fight, I'd watch it just for fun, because at least it's even, you got two people who are both, I think Holyfield's 59, maybe older, I think Holyfield is actually older than Tyson, so you got two of the greatest heavyweights of all time, I mean I'm just happy to see them hugging each other, after what they went through, it's nice to just see them being friends, it's weird, I don't know, what do you reckon, if you watched it, it was, I was disappointed in a sense of, in my wildest fantasies,

I was hoping it was going to be good, I knew reality wise it wasn't, but you know, from a fantasy perspective, Mike Tyson will suddenly become the old Mike Tyson, instead of the old Mike Tyson, the younger version and he would, because that's what's weird about this, is Jake Paul probably wouldn't have lasted around with Mike Tyson at the end of his career when he was 38, so when Mike Tyson retired after losing for the last time, that version of Mike Tyson would have knocked Jake Paul spark out,

of no doubt on that one, so the reality is, if you think about it, it's like, okay, I don't think of what Mike Tyson could do, but I think of Mike Tyson's opponents, how many of those fighters that Mike Tyson beat in his older days, or that beat him, you know, because it's close, would Jake Paul be able to stand up against none of them, they were all huge heavyweights, and Etienne was one, there was no way Jake Paul would stand up to him, Danny Williams, although he did beat Tyson,

Danny Williams, it, Jake Paul wouldn't have stood us, it'd have had no hope against Danny Williams at all, that's the reality, look at the heavyweights today, how would, how would Jake Paul fare against Fabio Wardley, it's just a joke, you wouldn't even consider it, would you, be honest, if you, if you know boxing, would you even, even consider Jake Paul to be, we wouldn't be allowed to fight those people anyway, but imagine, if he was facing Tyson Fury, or if he was facing Daniel Dubois, or if he was facing Derek Chisora,

or if he was facing Fabio Wardley, or if he was facing Joe Joyce, or Zhang, or Wilder, or Hergovich, any of them, Jake Paul wouldn't, wouldn't be able to handle any of them, and that's not even a guesswork, that's, it's almost infactuality, because they're just, he wouldn't be able to, I don't think it's, it would be possible, so you say, well, he's not a true heavyweight, it's, he was fighting a light heavyweight before, okay, so there's, let's say, so, okay, so let's not go heavyweight, let's go lightweight, hmm, Dmitry Bivol,

I wonder if he'd, if he'd give Dmitry Bivol a problem, Beata Bev, Beata Bev, what do you reckon, the unified light heavyweight champion of the world, do you think he'd be able to give him a, come on, it's like, in reality, no, he's good for what he is, he's definitely the best YouTube boxer, and he's got a great punch, but he's not, he's not, he hasn't yet, you know, I think if he'd have just gone down the normal route, and had like five, six, seven, eight fights a year,

and built up his experience, it'd be, it'd be a better boxer, and he might, you know, he might have managed to get to interim world title, I don't know, possibly, he might have got, he probably would have won some medals, some kind of, you know, belts, but he wouldn't have made, he's making more money than the world champions, isn't he, good on him, 40 million he made, apparently, for this fight with Tyson, 40 million, the only people that earn more than that is, that's like, heavyweight world championship winnings,

that's the kind of money that Usyk, and Mike Tyson, and Joshua, not Mike Tyson, Tyson Fury, and Joshua, that's the kind of money that they get, when they defend their titles, you know, during their world title fights, like huge money, so good on him, I think it's, it's brilliant for them, but they're the winners, the only winners, there was no loser out of the two in the ring, Mike Tyson didn't lose anything, he won, maybe a bit of respect, but you can't disrespect anyone of that age, really, he did it,

there's not many 50 or 80 year olds would be willing to, actually, for that amount of money, probably every 50 or 80 year old in the world, probably would be willing to do it, if you say to any average 50 year old, 58 year old, will you get in a ring with Jake Paul for 20 million, yep, it doesn't matter, let him, he can knock me out in two seconds, I don't care, because they've got 20 million at the end of it, so yeah, I guess pretty much anyone would say yes,

and a few of those would probably give him a hard time, there are some 50 or 80 year olds out there, that are fighters, like they've always been fighters, they didn't stop fighting 20 years ago, they're the ones that would give Jake Paul a proper time, proper hard time, because they're perspiring, because it's weird, isn't it, because they're active, actively doing it, oh well, I'm just talking rubbish really, but I think the truthful thing is, the only winners were them, the fans were winners when it came to the undercard,

that was a phenomenal fight between Serrano and what's her name, but I don't, yeah, the main one, I was kind of glad when it was over, so I could go to bed, it might sound weird, but I woke up, so I went to bed after Big Brother, which is the final of Big Brother, woke up Saturday morning, so I went to bed Friday night, this morning, I went to bed listening to the radio, so I was in bed by about 11, and I thought, if I wake up, I'll wake up,

if I don't, I'll just watch it on playback, doesn't matter, I'll just make sure I don't listen to the news, or go online, so I don't know what the results was, even though I knew what the results were going to be, but I just, all I hoped for, that no one got hurt, that was my hope, so I was woken up by this little fellow about three o'clock, and I thought, oh, I might as well get up, the main fight will be on in an hour, which it wasn't,

I think it was started at five, so I had enough time to start from the beginning, watch it, watch all the other fights, skip through the muff, and just basically go straight to the fights, without having to actually listen to any of the the muff that was going on, talking about, oh, blah, blah, blah, blah, all that, didn't have to listen to National Anthem, and it was great, I could just go right through to then getting ready to fight, I did watch the bit at the beginning, when they were in the ring,

because it was interesting, I wanted to see the body language, and see how they were being, I knew what Jake Paul was going to be like, because he's always the same, but I didn't know what Mike Tyson was going to, I didn't know how he was going to be, because it was by far the biggest, the biggest event he's been part of, for a very long time, since the fight with Lennox Lewis in 2002, was it 2001, 2002, 2002, that's the last big event, like huge event that Mike Tyson was part of,

because that's when he fought for the world title, and it was to unify the world title, wasn't it, I think, because didn't he have some belts himself, yeah, I think so, did he, I'll have to check that one out as well, blimey, so this is Mike Tyson, so Mike Tyson fought Lennox Lewis, Mike Tyson, Trevor Burbick, okay, Trevor Burbick, I like sometimes I do this, so professional boxing records, so I know who fought who's, and I go back and find them, so this 89, 86, 86, you know what annoyed me,

I didn't find this out until afterwards, people were like moaning about Trevor Burbick being rubbish, because of how he was beaten by Tyson, so, because he, he gave Tyson, Tyson gave him spaghetti legs, didn't he, well the fact is, he wasn't rubbish at all, he just happened to face in the most vicious heavy weight of our generation, that's what happened there, he was known as being a bully, actually, in fact, and he had quite a few good, he had, Pinkman Thomas was the person he beat, who he won the title from,

before fighting Mike Tyson, and Mike Tyson himself considered Pinkman Thomas to be one of the greatest, that's why when he didn't really want to fight him, then when he did fight him, he wanted to end it quick, because he had so much respect for him, he was actually, Pinkman Thomas was one of Mike Tyson's heroes, and Trevor Burbick beat Mike, beat Pinkman Thomas, the fight before Tyson, so yeah, and he also fought Larry Holmes for the world title in 1981, so five years earlier, and it went the distance,

you don't get to fight Larry Holmes for the world title in 1981, and that was when Larry Holmes was his absolute peak, you don't get to take him the distance, if you weren't good, that's all I'm saying on that, he also fought John Tate, knocked him out, so he wasn't a nobody, he was portrayed at the time as being useless, because of what Tyson did to him, but that's not fair, anyway, what was I going to say, Tyson, Tyson, Tyson, Tyson, Tyson, right, he fought Tyson, where did he fight Tyson?

1986, I don't know why, I just, it's bugging, if I, if I get these ideas in my head, I'm like, I need to know what the answer is, his middle name's Gerard Mike Tyson, Michael Gerard Tyson, professional record, okay, so he fought Lennox Lewis, June 2002, ah, okay, got you, okay, I realise where I am now, so yeah, he did lose his titles, because when he got out of prison, Mike Tyson actually won two world titles, that seems to have been forgotten as well, did you know that?

He beat Frank Bruno in 96, to win the WBC world title, and then he fought Bruce Seldon, again in 96, and he won the WBA heavyweight title, and then he fought Evander Holyfield, for the first time, and lost, lost the WBA heavyweight title, so he must have given up the WBC, and of course he fought Evander Holyfield again, and he forgot to have a snack first, before getting in the ring, right, that's what him and Vinnie have got in common, they're both like, like ears, like eating ears, grim,

so I say good luck to them, that's what I say, but they were the winners, the audience were the winners with the, if you didn't get to see, if you're hearing people going, oh Mike Tyson fight was terrible, and it was, and you're not watching it because of that on Netflix, and you're a member of Netflix, I'm not getting paid by Netflix by the way, and if you do like boxing, then I suggest you watch it, skip forward, watch both the fights before Tyson were good,

but the the ladies fight with Serrano and Katie Taylor was phenomenal, it was exceptional, an exceptional fight, it's worth watching that, if you like boxing, go, go watch that, the Tyson fight, if it's, it was novelty, but I know some people say, well women, women fighting is a novelty, it's not so much anymore, it was, but it's kind of, I would say it's pretty much established now, with the likes of Katie Taylor, and Serrano, and I keep wanting to say Serrano Williams, but that's a tennis player isn't it, yeah,

but there's, there's been a few quite, you know, a few big names in, in female boxing, I think it's really in, it's still in its infancy, I do, that's my, that's my cardigan by the way, that's it, it's still in its infancy, and I reckon within the next, it's my predict, if I was going to get into boxing as a promoter, I would focus on the women, because that is going to be, they're going to be the future stars, because if you think about it right, I don't know, if,

if this was the 90s, and female boxing was at the same stage as it is now, in the early 90s, okay, so we go back to the early 90s, boxing is exactly the same stage as it is now, with Katie Taylor, and all the names that are around now, and then on the scene comes a boxer called Pamela Anderson, I mean it's just, I know it's, it's, she would be the biggest star in sport, because she was the biggest star on television, she was a huge star wasn't she in the early 90s,

I mean there wasn't really anyone bigger than Pamela Anderson at the time, and when I say bigger, I mean like in popularity, so, so that's what I think, what's going to happen is going to be, it's going to be two, two, two women will be really, really popular, one will be some kind of supermodel, who suddenly everyone will fall in love with, and she'll be the darling of the world, and the fact that she boxes, she'll also be probably starred in movies and whatever, so that'll, that'll happen, but also,

I don't want to say the word beast, but I'm thinking of it in a sense of the way Mike Tyson was a beast, but there's also going to be a female version of Butterball come along, a butterbean mother, who's just going to be, I don't mean this rudely, but she'll be heavyweight, and she'll be like a tank, that sounds rude, and I don't mean it rude, I mean because heavyweight is a heavier, it's a heavyweight, it's standard, if you're lightweight, you're lightweight, if you're heavyweight, you're heavyweight, so,

but there's going to be that absolute monster, and again, it sounds wrong when you say about a woman, if you said about a man, no one would blink an eyelid, you know, an absolute monster, a tank, if you say about a woman, it's like, it sounds disrespectful, and I don't mean it disrespectfully, it's going to be gross, again, I don't mean that horribly, it's going to be this big, it's going to be like really strong, like a female weightlifter kind of type body, I mean, which is lovely, I'm sure,

and like a Russian weightlifter, female weightlifter, and I don't mean sumo wrestler, but again, I'm not, sumo, see if you said, oh, she looks like a sumo wrestler, it's like, that's disrespectful towards a woman, but if you say a man looks like a sumo wrestler, well perhaps he is a sumo wrestler, there are female sumo wrestlers, you know, I don't know if that's true or not, but that's what I think there's going to be, okay, a really powerful, super strong female heavyweight that's going to knock everyone over, roll over,

not roll over everyone, but not roll onto them, it's again, I'm talking about, I don't mean it in a weird way, just, all I'm saying is there's going to be someone, dig, dig, dig, there's going to be someone, there's going to be, oh, it's going to be a horror show, again, I don't mean it in looks wise, I mean, it's just, they're going to be knocking people out, and in a way that's never been seen before, I mean, Serrano Williams, no, Serrano, she's knocked out about, got 35 knockouts,

I think she's got the highest rate of knockouts of any boxer, a female boxer ever, but this is going to be on a new scale, and then what will happen is, this is my theory, what will happen is people will start to think, I wonder, hmm, first of all, it'll be like, is it, is it trans, is she trans, rather not it, is she trans, you know, the way society is now, trying to find a reason, oh, really kind of focusing on the body, and like, I think I saw something there,

like, no, you know, but hopefully it wouldn't happen, but then I think there would be that, that, that point where the question would come, can they do a crossover fight between the female heavyweight champion and an actual female, no, between a female champion and the male heavyweight champion, can, because I've met, I, there was a woman that lived where I lived when I was a kid, no man would take her on, she'd beat any man up, seriously, she's, she was scared, I was friends with her, so I was okay,

but she was scary, and no one would take, so someone like that would be, that'd be interesting, someone like this biggest Tyson Fury, maybe, but a female version, going against someone the size of Usyk, mind you, female boxers, world champions have gone in the with, just in sparring with average male boxers and been hurt by them, I didn't expect that would happen, I just assumed that the female boxer as a world champion would be way better than, like, someone that wasn't at that level, but it didn't seem to be the case,

I also saw something on YouTube where this raw marine, it was, it was a, raw marines in America, like a boxing thing, and anyone could just get in the ring and call out people or say, come on, who wants to have a fight, and a female boxer got in, it was all men, it was all men doing the boxing, but a female came in and said, come on, I'll take anyone on, and she definitely, I mean, she gave it, gave it her all, but because it was a marine,

they just let it keep going, they wouldn't stop it, and this bloke really went for it, I suppose maybe he saw it as an opportunity of a lifetime, I don't know, but to do that and not get, go, go to prison for a long time, it's weird, it's like, I think the mentality is, there's no difference between men and women in the forces, it's equal, isn't it, and as it should be really, in all situations, I think, you know, equality, I'm big in equality, apart from when I'm not,

I'm not into equality, I think, even though I'm a boxing fan or a pacifist, I was really into, I mean, my friend, I've got a friend, a female friend, it's his mum, she told me that I'm more feminine than her, and I said, well, that's not hard to, not hard really, is it, so I had to have a, my comeback, I had to say something, but the reality is, I'm, I'm not a particularly masculine person, not really, not, not in the sense of like the traditional BS kind of macho person,

I mean, I suppose because I've got, I've probably got no testosterone left at my age, probably not, and when I get angry, I don't get aggressive, I just get redder, let's go, go more red in my face, that's it, so yeah, anyway, that was my take on the Tyson, Mike Tyson, Jake Paul fight, it was, it was what it was, and I wish them both luck and happiness, and loving kisses and cuddles, on that note, I'm going to go, what the heck am I even talking about, thank you for listening, remember to be kind to yourself, because you do deserve to be happy, be gentle with yourself, lots of love, bye.