(music) #1268 Cleaning Jobs - SLEEPY Boring Objects (13th January 2025)

Hello and welcome to jasonnewland.com. My name is Jason Newland. Just put my computer down, it's making a lot of noise. Um, yeah, this is Sleepy Boring Objects.

Please only listen when you can safely close your eyes. I wonder why my laptop's making so much noise. Oh, I know why it's making so much noise.

Blimey. It's because I'm creating the video. So, uh, yeah, still it's 29% done so it's going to take a while.

I hope it's not too noisy. I'll move it away a little bit. There you go.

Hopefully you can't hear it too much. It's a little bit buzzy, but it's, uh, wonder why it's making so much noise. If I close everything else down, maybe that will do the job.

Nope. Oh, well. So, hope you're well.

I was making a Let Me Bore You To Sleep recording earlier today and I started talking about my cleaning jobs that I've had. And I thought to myself, well actually I thought out loud because I said it, that that might make a wonderful, absolutely glorious Sleepy Boring Objects. So that's what I'm doing.

Yeah. So this is, it's still Let Me Bore You To Sleep. It's just a Sleepy Boring Objects episode of that.

It's, it's a little bit more focused, a little bit more. Could I get less focused? You may ask. I don't know.

I'm not sure. But the idea is that it's a bit more focused than the standard Let Me Bore You To Sleep where I just talk about stuff. So at least I have a subject.

A bit like with the Q&A Fridays, I have a sub, well, I have multiple subjects depending on what questions I get. But it is, it keeps me, it brings me back to the subject. I might lose track a little bit and I might go off.

But then I do come back and look at what the question was and realise that I've spent 20 minutes talking about something completely different. But that's okay. At least I've managed to, it's the discipline, the discipline of coming back.

And that's kind of what this is. This is, it's a very highly disciplined recording, where I focus solely on cleaning jobs, or whatever subject I'm focusing on. So I'm going to focus on cleaning jobs that I've had.

And just let you know that I have a website, jasonnewland.com. All of my stuff's on there. It is my actual podcast, really. Although, if you go on there, all my latest recordings are on there.

I also suggest if you do when you visit jasonnewland.com, click the redo button, or whatever you call it. Refresh button, because I have to do that on my computer, in order to get the latest recordings up. So every time I do a recording, it'll be on there.

I do four versions, five, six versions, blimey. One without music, five and 10 hours without music, one just with music, and five and 10 with music. So it just gives you a choice, choices.

That's kind of why I do that. Also, I have a YouTube channel at Jason Newland. And every time I do recording, I upload, if I do a normal recording like this, I upload a 10 hour version.

In fact, I might upload just a normal version as well. Possibly. In fact, in fact, in fact, in fact.

Yeah, I don't know. I'm playing around with doing different things. So I'm just thinking I might do a normal length one.

A 10 hour without music, and a 10 hour, and one without music, one with music. No, I won't be able to do the one with music. So one without music, five hours without music, and 10 hours without, no, maybe 10 hours without music.

So one with music, one without music, rather, and 10 hours. I knew what I was talking about. I just, the reason I'm saying this is because I recently discovered how to add music to YouTube videos.

But unfortunately, or that I need to look into this, the background music, it just means it's copyright free. So you know, I don't get in trouble from YouTube for adding music, as long as it's their music. What I might, there might be a way around I'm thinking about it, actually.

Yeah, there is a way around it. Ah, you probably wondering a way around what? Well, there is a, there's a huge list of songs that I can choose from. But none of them last for an hour, or an hour and a half or however long the recording lasts for.

I think that the ones I've done so far, I've only been like five, six, seven minutes long. So that's been fine. They do do some that last 2930 minutes.

But I have to choose a specific type of song has to be very slow, have to be very mellow and relaxing. I can't have like that's my version of up to date music, by the way. It possibly wouldn't fit with the recording.

Mind you, some people might like that bit of drum and bass. Maybe a bit of jazz. Would you like jazz? I mean, I don't care.

I'll make I'll make 100 different versions with different types of music if you want. I don't care. If that's what people want.

I'm here to serve my man, my lady, my worshipness. I'm here. I just want to here's my plan is, can you keep one sentence, just keep the whole sentence together without interrupting yourself? I don't know.

I'll try. Maybe I couldn't use what I want. Obviously, I can't.

I want to get an app. I want to put an app together where you can just ask for anything that you want me to do. So you can put in or to start with, have my recordings, all the recordings and then play them with whatever background music you choose.

And you can even adjust the volume of the recording. You can adjust the volume of the background music, maybe add an echo, you know, so you can make it sound how you want it to sound specifically for yourself. And then you can save those settings for future recordings or for that, just that particular recording, and then just play it.

And it stays on the app. In order to do something like that, I would need an expert on how to do it. Because it's, it's not just an app thing.

This is this is a big, a big task, and an expensive one as well. So it would cost me, it's something that would cost a lot of money to put together, which means I'd have to charge for it. But it would be pretty cool.

And as time goes on, with the new technology, as it, you know, produces and enhances, there will come a time where you can literally just put in what you want the recording to be just make me a relaxing recording. And it'll be my voice. And you can say what language you want in choose music, you can just and it could be what do they call it lucky's choice or whatever, you know, just whatever, just like relaxing music.

And as the app, because it will be AI run, it will start to get to know your tastes. And maybe offer you stuff that maybe you haven't listened to before, something you might like, style of music that you can have in the background. And you may choose to just one day say, you know what, I just want you to do a body scan and count down from 1000 down to one while you do the body scan, or countdown from each body part countdown from 20 to one.

As you focus on the body part, and then do the next one, then you know, all the way down your body, and then start from scratch again. Or if you want a certain positive suggestion being said, or, you know, where you can choose, I want to stop smoking recording. And you know, just get what I'm saying, just like something you can just almost pick and mix in a way, but it would be my voice.

And it would be it could be a mixture of stuff I've already done before. Or it could be something the AI is put together based on what I've done before. Because you know, I've done this thousands and thousands and thousands of hours of me talking thousands of recordings.

It's not just to Let Me Bore You To Sleep. I've done loads and loads of hypnosis, relaxation, sleepy, pain relief, all kinds of stuff over the years. So that's something I'd like to do.

But I can't. I don't know how. I'll be honest, I don't have the skill set.

And if I did, I can try and learn a bit a bit about how to do it. But you know, one of the things it needs to be done as a business. Because the whole music background music thing that would cost money.

There'd be I guess royalties would have to be paid every time the music was played. If it was copyright or get some kind of contract. I don't know.

I don't know the ins and outs of stuff like that. But I think it would be a really cool app to have. Because then you can have everything and maybe go even further and just have other people in there.

Not just have it about me. Although I think it'd be quite cool just just have it about me because my ego is so large. Not as big as me nose.

So I got that out of my system. So that's good. And I so I have had lots of lots of cleaning jobs in the past, not for a long, long time.

But I'll go through the the I'll go through the cleaning jobs I've had, try and do it numerically, or time wise, if I can. So the first cleaning job I had, just trying to think there was a period when I cleaning jobs doing Do you class? Do you class washing up as cleaning? Is cleaning isn't that washing up? It's not the same, but it's still kind of cleaning.

I mean, technically, when I worked in a chip shop, I was cleaning.

But I wasn't my job wasn't as a cleaner, but I did do a lot of cleaning. Okay, let's just stick at the cleaning jobs, the actual jobs that were specifically cleaning. Okay.

So the first job I had was working in the supermarket when I was 16. Early mornings, 630 to 830. It was really easy job actually, all it was was going around with these long things on the floor to pick up the dust and to pick up bits of wrappers and stuff off the floor.

Bearing in mind that the floors are being cleaned continuously throughout the day anyway, getting all that and then going around with and then mopping. And then going around with a buffer. Always the buffer.

Yeah, I think yeah, mocked first and then the buffer, I think. So it's easy. And we just broke it into aisles.

So I did like three or four hours and someone else did four hours and, you know, so it's just broken up into bits. I love the machines. Oh, wait a minute.

Did we do? Maybe we didn't have a mop. Maybe we used a scrubbing machine, and then a buffer. Possibly.

I'm losing track now, because I've used those buffer machines a few times over the years. And I like them. I like them a lot.

I really do. So you have to, if I remember rightly, you have to push up on the left. And you can basically, it controls if you go right, if you want to go, you want to go right, you push up on the left, you want to go left, push up on the right, the handles, I think.

But you also have to be really careful because the lead can get tangled and you don't want to be getting your lead tangled. You don't. I don't.

I didn't. So I did that very easy work. The only time it was a little bit difficult, because I had that job three times, three different times in the winter.

If I got the like near the doorway, then that was the worst part because, you know, people coming in with mud and ice. And so that would be very, very dirty part of the floor. So be a little and also the aisles would be a little bit dirtier.

But generally, fairly easy to do. And I quite liked it. I didn't do it for long for the first time.

So that was when I was what 16. So I'm just going to go through the years. So 17.

Right. When I was 17, I worked in the co-op. And then I left the co-op and I did get a cleaning job on the docks.

I remember getting taken to get picked up in this like a van thing. It had windows, so it was it was OK. I could carry a van like the kind of thing that people take.

They say they might take a residential, go to a residential home and take them out to the circus. I don't know. Just, you know, it'd be maybe you hold like 12 people.

So I had that I had a job in the evening. I was on the docks, but I couldn't even tell you how to get there because it went in the car. So it was at night.

And so I did that for a couple of months. In the morning, I'm not sure if I had a job in the morning as well. These jobs are like coming back to me now.

So I don't remember, but I remember I had that job, I don't remember necessarily what it entailed. Or do I? No, I don't. No.

So that was that one. And then I hit 18. I didn't have it.

Did I have any cleaning jobs when I was 18? 18. I lived with my dad for a little while at the beginning of 1989, because I just turned 18 in August. I might have had, did I have a cleaning job? During that time, I definitely had a kitchen portering job.

I think I did have a cleaning job on the docks. Yeah, I did. That's when I had the cleaning job.

So I was working. This is when I was working at the co-op. And at the weekends, because I'd work, work Monday to Friday, I suppose Monday to Saturday with a day off, you know, so five, five out of the six days, wasn't open on a Sunday back then.

And in the evenings, I would, I was a kitchen porter at a hotel, or was it a restaurant? Might have been both actually, but it was in a, oh, it was a hotel. Yeah, it was a hotel. So I was a kitchen porter.

And I did that, but that was what I did also have. Oh, how curious. Because apart, unless it was an eat, I mean, yeah, I think the evening job I had, so I did the kitchen portering on a Saturday night.

And I think I had a cleaning job. So I had quite a few jobs on the go at one point, just, just to take the time off really, because I was bored. And yeah, that's weird.

But that was, so, oh yeah, so I had, that's it. So I had the job in, so that was before. So 1989, I was working in a, working on the docks myself.

And I left that job to go back to, okay, well, I can't, I can't pick the exact time, which is a bit annoying. But I had a job doing the uh, yeah, definitely had a job in the evening. I can't pinpoint when it was.

But it was with someone that I'd previously worked with in the bar. And we, yeah, it was going, going well. And it was, yeah, I remember doing the buffering and stuff.

And I was saying all the wrong things and get into trouble like normal. So I had that, that was on the docks. Again, I can't remember exactly where that was.

So and that was just a big area, I think it was like a canteen, the canteen of this office block. So we're just cleaning the floor. Some people went and did the offices.

I was just part of the canteen people cleaning that huge area. And then 89. Because I was 89, that's the beginning of 89.

And then later on, I had this. Was it that same year? 89, I had a job cleaning caravans. This was a full time job cleaning caravans.

This is at the beginning of the summer. And it was awful. I'm not not awful as in the job, it's really hard work, like really hard work.

Like really, really, really, really, really hard. There was everything was timed. And because it was what was peak time peak caravan time.

So as soon as someone left, it had to all be done ready for the next person to come in. I didn't last very long on that job. Partly because I didn't really get on with the people I worked with.

What the person I worked with, she just she was a little bit very opinionated and kind of she kept telling me what to do, which was her job. It was annoying though. How dare she tell me what to do? But yeah, it was it was all right.

But it was hard work. And it was very low paid. And I couldn't really see that I wasn't enjoying it.

Well, I wasn't, I wasn't fulfilled. I think with cleaning jobs, I was okay if it was part time. But doing it all day as a job, it was a little bit too much for me.

And it was hard. I was just it wasn't I was wasn't lazy so much. It's just it was really hard.

And it's just like one of the hardest jobs I ever had when I was young was it wasn't cleaning, but it was working in or it was cleaning technically. It was working in a dry cleaners, but commercial industrial dry cleaners. Hard, hot, hot wet work that was just wow.

And it was all stuff for hotels and restaurants and tea cloths and table cloths and blankets and you know, uniforms and stuff like that. It was just really, really full on. So that was the I didn't last very long in that job.

But that's a whole different story. And I did. I did.

So yeah, I had that cleaning job. For I don't know, a week or so, I might have done it. And it was just all.

Oh, no, I didn't didn't want to do that anymore. So get out there. And I think that's when I applied to work as a canvasser selling or not trying to get people to have quotations for double glazing windows and conservatories and things like that.

And you know, I was quite good at that. So that that changed my projector a little bit at that time. However, earlier that summer, before I got to the point of doing that job, I had a job.

Yeah, the second time I worked at the supermarket, I lived opposite it. And I was pretty much I had a job as a babysitter. Which is a weird job.

I basically had somewhere to live. Food, I was supposed to be getting some money, didn't get any money. And the two people I lived with, they were working night shift.

So I looked after her kid or their kid. So they put the kid to bed, went to work at 10 o'clock. And then they'd be home, get the kid ready for school and I take this kid to school.

And that would be it. But I didn't have a bed. I was sleeping on the floor, on the cushions from the settee.

And not only that, they would come home at, I don't know, two o'clock in the morning, on their lunch break. Come in, turn the TV on, loud music. That's when I knew maybe this job, this is not the career for me.

Plus they won't give me any money. It was like, how am I supposed to, I can't do anything. So I got a job opposite, which started at 6.30, which is perfect because they were home by then.

I need to contend five, 10 minutes to get home. So if your finished at six and sometimes I was a little bit late, but they didn't, they weren't bothered. As long as I kind of stayed late and finished what I was doing.

So that was good. Gave me an extra like 15 quid a week or whatever it was. Well, gave me some money.

So I had that job. I have a vague memory of having an early morning job when I was working after, yeah, after I left the job at the co-op, I was still living upstairs in the flat before we got evicted. And the reason I left the job, why did I leave the job? I got offered another job by someone that conned me.

I just remembered this, this is weird, isn't it? So I had a motorbike, right? And I couldn't ride it. It was like 250cc. Is that such a thing? It was way too big.

I'd need a driving license to be able to drive it or to ride the bike, the motorbike. It didn't work. And I bought it.

Don't ask me why I bought it. And that was when I was working at the co-op and I kept it outside, which annoyed the manager. But then I was living upstairs, so I kind of, it was always blocking everything and I was like, well, tough, it's staying there.

And then one of the local lads said, oh, I'm a mechanic. And he started talking to me and he said, I can fix the bike. And he offered me a job, offered me a job doing, I can't remember what, but what it was, it was one of these, um, fantasists, BS slash fantasists.

And there was no job and he, he didn't fix my bike. He stole my bike. So I gave it to him to fix.

And he didn't. And he just would not answer the door. And I kept going around there because he literally lived around the corner.

I was knocking on the nothing at all. And so it got a little bit silly. And yeah, so when there was no job, so I gave him my notice for the job that he'd offered me.

I can't remember what the job was. It was some, some kind of made up thing that he'd said in order to keep me sweet so he could keep my bike. Apparently he had a lockup.

I found out later he had a lockup with loads of stolen bikes. Bless him. And yeah, so I was jobless, which I didn't, I wasn't hugely upset about because I didn't like working at the co-op anyway.

It wasn't really my kind of thing. I wasn't very good at it really. I never, I never really very good at any job I had.

You know, maybe if I put in some effort, maybe. So I did that. Yeah, the early morning job would have been, it might have been for the same company that I did the evening job for.

So they picked me up in the morning, and they dropped me off and they picked me up again in the evening. And I did that during the summer until it was time to, oh yeah, until September. And then I got a job at a factory.

So I gave up the cleaning jobs, had a job in the factory that was double shifts, like two to 10, 10 to two. So not nights, just like during the day, early in the morning, six to two, then two to 10. Two to 10 was always my favourite.

And so I had a job. I did that until we were evicted from the flat upstairs. And then I moved into a room.

And yeah, so just worked there for a while. And then I gave that job up. So I gave that job up to go and work in a pub, which didn't work out.

And then I gave that up. So then I worked back at the factory again. Then I gave that up.

Oh, yeah, I gave that up to move to Spain. And I came back the same day. So it didn't go very well.

I was in Spain for the afternoon. So I didn't have any money, I didn't have any job. Where did I move to after that? I must have moved somewhere.

When I moved out of there. Yeah, I must have done so. Oh, I think that was yeah, after that, that was when I moved to the place where I was babysitting the kid.

And yeah, so that that's basically I was desperate to live somewhere. And I had a job. During that summer, I had a couple of cleaning jobs.

And then just gonna fast forward. There was a job I had in the evening. So I went back in late 1989 back to the supermarket again.

And it's really weird whenever I hear the song wind beneath my wings. It just reminds me of that job because I was working there during the build up to Christmas, while including into January as well. And I moved to London, I think something like this 16th of January or the first the second week of January I moved to London.

But I had that job probably between 1990 days. I had that job probably between October and January. So I had to either morning, the early morning job and at an evening job as well.

The evening job was all right, I got really well with the manager of the evening supervisor. I don't know why we just clicked gone really well. And I think I did about two hours I was doing four hours a day and it was just enough to keep me to pay my rent and buy bits of food that that was it's all I had, but that was enough to get me through.

But I just always certain things I remember there was one occasion. And because where it was was really close to where did I live? It wasn't it was okay, it's a little bit of a walk, but it wasn't like a long, long walk. But we always used to kind of end up walking the same way towards this place.

And it was literally just on on the nearly entrance of the docks. And I saw this, this young female. She probably was maybe a bit older than me, maybe the same age.

And I just could always just couldn't believe how, how attracted I was to her. That's a bit worth saying, isn't it? How blown away I was and tried to talk to her and I couldn't. And she was just cleaning the same as I was.

And I was trying to like, say just not chatter up, I was never really a chatter up, but just to sort of speak and like, nothing was coming out just and it was annoying. And we she actually did sort of go to say hello and talk to me and I was like, what's your name? And she just carried on walking. But I knew I told my manager that this is a short term thing I'm getting out of there.

I'm moving to London. And I don't think he believed it. Because I was living in a little town and I don't think he thought I would do it move to London and not you know, without anything, no backup, no no plan, but I did.

But that was the last time I had cleaning jobs in that little town. And then, so in London, I had a cleaning job. What cleaning jobs did I have in London? Let me look.

Did I have any cleaning jobs in the actual? No, I don't think I had lots of different jobs and jobs involved cleaning. But the only job the first time I had a job actually cleaning cleaning was and it was part time was more later or middle just after the middle 90s. And I was cleaning a nightclub.

But this was like proper cleaning wasn't wasn't as nice as I never cleaning because cleaning the toilets. And a busy nightclub and they were busy toilets. But I did that for about a year, maybe less.

Yeah, maybe a year. Yeah, at least a year. And so I'll be doing the floors, mopping, scrubbing the floors and then with the scrubbing machine, and then doing the polishing them as well as doing the toilets, cleaning the toilets, cleaning the sinks, all that stuff.

So it was the whole thing. It Yeah, my boss used to chuck pound coins onto the floor to entice me to move the tables. So you'd always know you check to see if the tables are moved because he could see like money.

So yeah, I definitely did move the tables. And that was Thursday was it 12344 nights a week or four days a week was sometimes what I'd do I'd go in during the day and do it four times a week. And it took about two hours probably per Yeah, per and it will also do the toilets upstairs as well.

But it took about two hours to do the whole thing. And that was a bit more intensive. I'd also vacuum the office and do stuff like that.

So yeah, it was all kind of part of it. So I'm trying to think if there's any other cleaning. Oh, yeah.

In before that, actually, I had a cleaning job on a council estate. And what I did is I cleaned the stairwells in the tower buildings. Also, emptying the chutes clearing the chutes empty in the bins.

And there's no toilets to clean. But it was very much just keeping the place tidy and clean, you know, so the stairwells we've done every day. And the reception area or the entrance.

Trying to think what other things the just generally, we'd all have our own little sections to do. And yeah, it was it was it was an okay job, actually. I did that for a few months.

I'm trying to think of any other ones. That was okay. It was I did have a job I worked road sweeping for a while.

Wasn't for long, but it's really a while. So I was pretty much just collecting. I was collecting what the the rubbish didn't collect like there was like a road sweeper and they were collecting the bins and I was just sweeping behind them basically.

And I remember this quite well because it was in I think it was in like Whitechapel area and or Bethnal Green Whitechapel somewhere like that. It was very busy, like really busy. And we were out doing it peak time.

And bearing in mind I was in my the peak of my life, you know, the peak, peak of my adulthood, as it were. And I just really didn't enjoy doing it. I felt very self conscious, very on show.

And, yeah, it was very strange feeling. And also, I guess knowing that I was, I was only getting paid like very little about money to do it. I wasn't getting paid the amount that the rest of the people were getting because I was just agency.

I was temp, temporary. So, yeah, I did that. What other cleaning jobs did I have? There was another job I had, which was, it was a different council estate.

That was all right. And there was another one was collecting the bins as well. So that was a different one.

That was all kind of part of the same organization. So going around collecting the bins from the different estates and collecting the bins from the streets. So it wasn't, wasn't collecting the residential bins.

It was collecting like the, the street bins, you know, the bins next to the street. And I don't know if they still have them. There was a time when they took them all away, all the bins were taken away.

And I also had a job actually, this is before I moved to London. I had another job on the docks. This was a weird one because I, my supervisor was one of my former neighbors when I was a kid.

And she was also the mother of one of my best friends when I was like about eight years old. And she was still the neighbor to my Nan. My Nan and Grandad actually, yeah, at the time, like three doors up or three doors down depending.

And me and the lad I was working with, we were just laughing our heads off. And we were doing, this was like an area of, there were like porter cabins that we were cleaning. I don't know if it was like a shipping office or something, but there was porter cabins and we just, and this was in the winter.

This was, yeah, definitely not winter winter, but this was, I would say, probably was it mornings or was it evenings? I think it might be mornings. I think it was. I can't really pinpoint the exact time, but I did that.

It might be in 89 or 90. It might have been 88. But I got told off.

I got warned with the sack from the lady that was my neighbor, my former neighbor. And I think she threatened to tell my dad on me, or tell my Nan, or tell your Grandad, or tell your Grandad that you'd be naughty. Very strange, but it was so funny.

I couldn't stop laughing because the more she kept coming in and telling us off, and the more she did it, the funnier it got. I was a kid. I just couldn't help it.

I was only 46 at the time. I'm trying to think of another cleaning job I had. It's quite a few, isn't it? I had a cleaning job.

So in London, did I have any cleaning jobs in London? I think that's all the cleaning jobs I had in London. And then I moved, got my job in insurance. And then after I left the insurance, I got another cleaning job.

I went back to cleaning again. And I had this job in, and it was early morning, like 5.30 in the morning, till 7.30, something like that. Early, like, that's early.

For me, 5.30 is not so early anymore, but back then it was really early. But I didn't have any income. No, I did have an income.

No, I was working part-time in the gift shop after I left my insurance job, because I just couldn't, I was going through some stuff, and I couldn't, couldn't work there anymore. So I, yeah, I left that job, worked in the gift shop during Christmas time. Then the next year, for up till August, I was working there part-time.

But I also had these increasing debts, credit cards and stuff, and I decided to try and, you know, earn a bit more. So I got this early morning job, and it was a good, it was actually, it was kind of very similar to the job I had before. I think it was a co-op, actually.

So it's a similar kind of, it's not there anymore, but it's the same kind of job, just cleaning the floors of a supermarket. And I quite liked it. And it was weird, because it was in the summer as well.

So this was kind of probably about May time, when it was really light, early in the morning, and I remember seeing a, blimey, was it a seagull trying to eat a pigeon, which was weird. And I also saw this girl that I was in love with, that I used to really like, in the insurance place. And it was the first time I'd ever seen her outside of work, and I was stressed.

I just got out of bed, and I had a hat on, like a cap, and I couldn't have looked worse if I tried. I was trying to disguise myself, and, but she still knew it was me. So that was strange.

But that job didn't really last very long. I'm not sure what happened, but yeah, I, no, I think it's the, I think what happened is the, the place that I was working for weren't happy that I was doing another job. And they were concerned that I was doing, because I was getting up so early in the morning, and maybe I was tired at work or something.

And then they, then they kind of, not sacked me, the job, the gift job, but they forced me to leave, saying that I needed to get another job, because this wasn't, I was just getting into more debt. So they were concerned about me, but I don't know, I think it was, it might be an excuse to get, get rid of me, I don't know. But it was a Buddhist charity, so it wasn't, they, you know, these were my friends, my friends.

And then, so I had that job, and I went into insurance again, I got another insurance job. Then I got, yeah, then I left there, came here to university. Have I had any cleaning jobs since I've lived here? I haven't, have I? I mean, since not here, but in this town.

That's 2007. I've been here since 2015. I got another insurance job, so I was a counsellor for a few years, then I got another insurance job, and then I lost that, and then I came here.

It wasn't very exciting, that recording, was it? But it's not supposed to be exciting, it's supposed to be sleepy, boring objects. But those are all the cleaning jobs. So I've had a few.

I mean, how many is there? If I go backwards, so, or go forwards, there's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, at least ten cleaning jobs. It's quite a few, isn't it, I suppose? Yeah, I've had a few kitchen portering jobs as well. How many have I had? One, two, three, four.

Yeah, I did kitchen portering four times. Maybe five, actually. Worked in two bakeries.

Worked in insurance three times. Worked in four call centres. Yeah, I've had a lot of jobs, lots of different jobs.

There was one, this is, oh, wait a minute. Blimey, that was a kitchen portering as well. Wow, I actually had a full-time job as a kitchen porter in a hotel.

And in that week, I had three full-time jobs. That sounds like a lie, but it's true. And that was in the days when it was much easier.

I could just get a job really easily. And I think that was a week when I had the job as a kitchen porter in a hotel where the chef was one of my friends at school, which wasn't good, because he was a chef now, and I was washing dishes. It was kind of weird.

I'd known him for years, and good for him. You know, good for him, but I just, I don't know, I just, the dynamics felt wrong. That same week, I had a job doing, oh yeah, that's when I did the cleaning job for the caravan site, so that's 11, but yeah, so caravan site.

I can't remember what other job I had in that, it might have been another kitchen portering job, but I actually did three full-time jobs in one week. It sounds like a lie, and it might be, but I think it's true. So, you know, I started the last one on a Friday, and maybe I kept that for a while, but it was really weird.

Just went through three jobs. I think one, the first two, I started pretty much straight away. I think the caravan one, I started literally straight away, so you can start now.

So I had the interview in the morning, and they just like, you can start right away, okay. The kitchen portering job was probably start tonight, because the restaurant, the hotel was open, you know, all the time. The restaurant was open at different times throughout the day, morning, evening, during the day, and the last job, I don't know what it was in that week.

Not really sure. Yeah, it's strange when I think back to these cleaning jobs, just trying to think if there's any other cleaning. Oh, I did have, well, it was a one-off, but I did a cleaning job where, again, I worked in a bakery, so it's three bakeries, but this was, my job was to clean the bakery, and it was in a supermarket.

It was a separate job, and I took it on with the hope was that I would have it regularly, so it'd be like an evening. I'd do it every evening for two hours or something, so I took it on. No one else wanted to do it for some reason, couldn't figure it out.

I went in there probably six o'clock, because they closed, they were closed long before that, then they, because of bakery, so I think they probably closed about four, five. So I went in about six, and I'm not even making this up. I was probably there till about nine or 10, because the floor was so caked with a crust of bread and dough and stuff, it took hours to clean it.

Now, I'd have, you know, I've got experience. I had experiences cleaning, and this was just scraping and mopping. There was no machinery to do it or anything like that, and I was determined to do it.

To get it done, to finish it, you know, I didn't want to just like, just leave, which is a little bit weird for me, because back then I probably, it was a bit unlike me to finish the job, but I was determined to get it done. Bearing in mind I'd worked in a bakery before, and I've cleaned the floors. That was one of my jobs.

Every day, when the job, when we finished, I would clean the floors, and it would be caked, but it would all come up, because it was fresh dough, and I'd clean it, and it'd be fine. This looked like months of it. So I did it.

I did as much as I could. There was probably three black bags full of stuff, and this was not a big kitchen. This was all a big bakery.

It was not big at all, so the amount of stuff that came out, and there's no way it would have been caked as hard, and that's what I'm saying, you know, but it was, it wasn't, because normally if you have a bakery, and this is from my experience, obviously it gets, you know, the dough and all different bits gets like pushed into the floor over, you know, a few hours, but it comes off.

You can pretty much get a scraper underneath, like a long scraper with a long, long stick, and you can scrape under it, and it comes off. It's actually quite fun to do in a way.

It's like popping a pimple into someone else's pimple, obviously not your own, but you know, and I, there was nothing like popping a pimple actually, but I was determined to get it done, and get it done I did, as well as I could in that time, because I had to go home. Well, and also I had to, I had to do it within a certain time before they closed the doors, because there was, I don't think there was, some doors were open, the back doors were open because there was a pub inside.

Yeah, so that's, so that was, so that doors was open till about 11 or something.

So anyway, I got out, went, went back to this, it was in the same supermarket I was working, but that would be this separate cleaning job, a separate thing. The, um, my manager, my supervisor came up to me, and told, she said, oh, they're complaining about you. I said, what? She said, yep, they said you didn't do a very good job, you didn't do it properly, they wouldn't know if you turned up or not.

It's like, really? It's like you could see the floor, it's probably the first time they'd actually seen the floor. It was seriously ridiculous. And I also cleaned up the, um, I forgot about that, I cleaned the butcher's area as well.

Yeah, that was weird, I cleaned the butcher's area. I think what the butcher did, he, he'd get in really early. No, we'd have to clean the butcher's area first, and then he'd come in and do his stuff.

So we'd get in there about seven, so we'd have to get in at half six and clean that area, just the floor though. The rest was fine, it was always pretty much immaculate anyway. But that was really strange.

I couldn't believe when they said, oh, like it hasn't been touched. It was, I, I put so much work into it. But yeah, it's weird I remember that.

I didn't get another, they didn't give me the job. It was, you know, it was like, there was no, there was no way I was gonna spend, it wasn't just that I spent hours doing it, it was hard graft. And since then I've worked in a big, huge bakery, like in the 90s, 91.

And we used to clean areas, you know, sometimes, they had cleaners, but sometimes you'd have to clean. And that was never anything that, that was easy to do. You know, so it's like, just ridiculous sometimes.

I wish I'd stayed at that though, I wish I'd stayed at the, the big bakers. I might have been a supervisor by now. How many years is that? 91, 2001, 2011, 2000, and 21, 22, 23, 24, 25.

So what's that? Over 16 years. Blimey. Right, I'm gonna go.

If you're still awake, thanks for listening. Remember to be kind to yourself because you do deserve to be happy. Be gentle with yourself.

Lots of love. Bye.