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Hello and welcome to Let Me Bore You To Sleep. Please only listen when you can safely close your eyes. My name is Jason Newland and my website is jasonnewland.com. Thank you for listening, listening.
Ah, so how you doing? How's it going? Are you all well? Good? Or well, I'm just assuming you said yes, but I hope everybody is okay. It's Tuesday the 14th of June 2022, 10.48 in the morning. I make these recordings at random times.
Not particularly brilliant at, well at anything, but especially the routines. I have, I do have a routine. I have little routines, you know, toilet routines and cooking routines and toilet cooking routines and dressing routines and bathing routines, you know, different things that have a like step-by-step process.
However weird that might sound. But, I don't have a particular time when I make specific recordings. I think I have done in the past, when I was up all night, quite a, quite a long time.
I was up during the night and I used to make recordings and I'd try and do one before midnight, like between 11 and 12 or something. And, but at the moment it's a case of whenever and it, in a way, it's easier for me to make a recording in the morning than it is at night because the later it is or the closer to beddy, bed, bed, beddy time, the more tired I am. And I just can't be bothered, you know, I don't feel really like doing anything, such as talking or anything like that.
So yes, that's why I've started doing them a bit earlier in the day and quite often it's the first recording I do. So, for example, yesterday I did a deep sleep whisper hypnosis recording as well as let me boy to sleep. But I did the let me boy to sleep first.
I don't really have a reason for that, if I'm honest. There's no reason. I've got an itchy bum, but there's no reason.
It's just, I just, you know, just, just, you know, do it. So there, that's it. I've had no messages, so I can't read any messages out.
So I did have a message from Mike and I read them out quite, maybe actually, hold on a sec. I'm going to wander off to the other side of the room, which is only like four footsteps to get my phone. Right, I'm back.
So, what this is, is I had some messages, but I read them out quite late in the recording, you know, like halfway through. And I realized that maybe some people, perhaps, possibly might have fallen asleep by then. So I'll just read the message again.
Mike read a message saying, Hey, Jason, or wrote a message rather. He might have read it as well after he wrote it or typed it. Hey, Jason, the 80s TV shows about birds with Richard Chamberlain was Lovebirds.
I'm 53 years old and we had many of the same TV show experiences. Yeah. So Mike, I read this out yesterday, but I thought I'd read it out closer to the beginning so you could hear it.
And Lovebirds, are you sure it wasn't Thornbirds? I don't know why, but it just came into my head just now. I think it might have been Thornbirds. Let me check.
Thornbirds. I don't know why. Thornbirds.
Yeah. Richard Chamberlain as a priest forced to make a choice between his feelings for a lady and his ambitions. So it was a miniseries.
Number of episodes four. And I'm pretty sure. I wonder if it doesn't say.
It's not saying how long they lasted for. Oh, running time. 467 minutes.
I guess that's the full running time for all four episodes. So 467 minutes. Still quite a long, isn't it? 467.
467 divided by four. 116 minutes. Sixty.
It's nearly two hours per episode. It's a long it's a long time when you're 10 years old to just sit there. Thornbirds.
Isn't the internet wonderful? I wouldn't have known that. I was like, yeah, Lovebirds. That sounds right.
Because it does sound right. And then right in my little ear, a little voice said, are you sure it's not Thornbirds, JJ? It's like, maybe it is. Wow.
I do remember Shogun, though. Shogun. Oh, man, that went on and on and on and on.
There's another TV show called Seagull Island. I'm gonna check this out. I have to turn my back on you.
Sorry, this is not very, not very professional, but hey. Starring Richard Chamberlain. Shogun.
Where's Shogun? Shogun. Okay. Filmography.
TV show. Blackbeard. Dream Coast.
Count. What? 1983 was the Thornbirds. Why is Shogun not on here? Casanova.
It was definitely the 80s. What? No. It was a different person, maybe.
That's weird. I'm pretty sure it was Richard Chamberlain. Shogun.
TV show. It was Richard Chamberlain. 1980 miniseries.
No. It's a da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da. So why isn't that in his own biography? 1981.
1981. How strange. Television series.
Oh yeah, Shogun. Five episodes. 1980.
Okay. I'm back. That was bad, wasn't it? I was right in the distance, like, come back near the microphone.
I think you could hear me, but I was kind of had my back to the microphone, so hopefully you could still hear me. Sorry if you couldn't. I do apologize.
So yeah, there was this, um, I always remember it. I think it was called Pigeon, not Pigeon Castle, Seagull Island, I think. And there was this, basically, it was a blind lady who was really being messed with.
She was, you know, people messing with her, but you couldn't, all you could hear was the seagulls. And it was, I don't know, it's just a really strange, very, um, atmospheric crime drama kind of thing. And it was, it was good, but it was kind of creepy.
Yeah, I remember that. I'm, well, I don't remember it. I remember parts of it.
I actually had a memory come back to me yesterday that I'd forgotten about. And this is when I worked in a chip shop. The chip shop had a van, like a chip van, on the local holiday camp.
It's like a caravan camp thing. And they had a chip van, and they put it there. And the owner got someone else to run it, rather than me.
I just, I'd forgotten all about that. So I think that was probably one of the reasons I had had the ump with, with the place. Because I didn't, didn't, I didn't have that opportunity to, to run my own thing.
Well, that wouldn't have been mine, but it was still, I kind of would have been the boss, kind of, I guess. Yeah. No, I'd forgotten all about it.
And suddenly it came back in my memory. Isn't that strange? Anyway, it's not important either. It's very unimportant.
But it's just something that I remembered. Out of the blue. Out of the blue just came from nowhere.
Oh, I think I might have dreamt it. I mean, it happened, but I might have like had it in a dream. In a dream.
If you like listening to motivational audios, then let me suggest Earl Nightingale. And he's on Audible. I mean, he's also on YouTube and everything like that.
But his audio books, what I would suggest, you can listen to Audible and you can listen to his audio books. Some of them are read by someone else. Some of them are read by him.
My suggestion is choose the ones read by him. Because he had such a great voice. He's long gone now.
But he's, he was someone that I would like to have met. So if you've ever sort of watched the video, The Secret, you know, the movie or listen to The Secret audio, just called The Secret. And it doesn't necessarily even has lots of motivational people talking, self help gurus and stuff like that.
But it doesn't actually it tells you what, you know, you can get this and you can get that. It doesn't say how really doesn't. That's I think it really, for me, I didn't feel like it revealed the secret.
Now, Earl Nightingale explains where it came from. So that whole film pretty much came from a book called Think and Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill. And again, it's like, I do think it's worth going to the source.
I don't mean tomato ketchup, or, you know, brown sauce or anything like that. And I'm not talking about alcohol. I'm not talking just going to the source of where the information came from.
Because it's like I found that with Buddhism. Okay, it's interesting to hear other people's versions of what the Buddha said, or hearing other people's versions of their interpretation of what Jesus said, or the interpretation of what other religious figures said. I'm more interested in the actual words of what the person said themselves.
Now, I know that in the case of historical religious figures, nothing was written whilst they were alive, because they didn't have the facilities to do that. So in some cases, it was hundreds of years before things were even written down. So, you know, I think the word hearsay is a valid word when it comes to what Jesus actually said, and what the Buddha actually said.
So these teachings were handed down word to mouth, word to mouth, by word of mouth to generation and generation. And eventually, when writing presses, and you know, I don't know why someone just didn't go to the news agents and buy a pad and a pen. I guess they were too busy.
So, you know, eventually, they started writing stuff down, but it's not going to be word for word, precisely what was actually said. Because it's kind of been proven that human beings don't have the capacity to remember necessarily everything that was said. And once something gets passed down, it gets changed a little bit.
And it's a bit like photocopying, you know, eventually, the photocopied version of the original document looks awful. And it doesn't even look anything like the actual original document, because it's been photocopied. So if you photocopy something, and then you photocopy the photocopy, then you photocopy the photocopy like that, it starts to fade and become potentially a bit rubbish.
And so with the book, you know, I like the idea of being able to, with like, say, Napoleon Hill, he wrote the book in, I don't know when it was, 1940s or 50s or 20s or something, it was a long time ago. He wrote the book that he wrote, and then other people talked about the book. So at least they were talking about something that was written by the person.
And we know it's their words. So that's, that's one of the issues I've got with the teachings of some religions. And just we don't know what the real words were, because they didn't write them down at the time.
Oh, they must have done. No, they didn't. They didn't have the facilities to do that.
Oh, they must have. No, they didn't. Don't argue with me.
This is something I've looked into. I'm not making it up. They didn't have printing presses back then.
Two and a half thousand years ago. When you think most of the technology is so recent, really, the technology that we rely on, I'm not talking about mobile phones, or the internet, just basic things like printing, toilets, soap, you know, the medical society, you know, the the medical people, doctors, nurses, and all this stuff. They didn't even know about germs until about 100 years ago.
Didn't know what germs, germs didn't exist. They didn't know about germs. It's just like what? It was just they used different things to cover up the smell.
So they they associated a bad smell with something bad. So if if a person if they so they would they would wash their hands with a perfume stuff. And eventually, they came across soap.
And because it was about getting it off rather than wasn't about germs or cleanliness, they didn't know what that was. They didn't know it existed. They didn't know.
They just didn't know because it's invisible, isn't it? But all I had was the smell. So they used to put stuff. So almost spraying perfume on your hands.
It meant your hands were clean, because they couldn't smell whatever it was from before. It's like, wow, imagine how easy that'd be easier, wouldn't it? Imagine just go to the toilet, whatever, just if you're a vet or a surgeon, just spray some perfume on your hands, save washing them. Wow, that must have been so much easier.
Not for the next patient that you see, but just generally. So I find that amazing. So much has happened, so much has been invented and created.
And just in the last 100 years, just in the lifetime of my granddad, my granddad's not around anymore, but he was 80 in 1991, which means 2001, 2011, 2021. So he'd be 111 now. Yeah, it'd be 111.
So 111 years, what he would have seen, I mean, what he saw in his lifetime, you think he was born 91. So he was born what? 1911. Is that right? Yeah, 1911.
So just the amount of different things that he would have seen, you know, like planes. I mean, planes were around, weren't they? But not in the format that they are now hundreds and hundreds of people. And I was on a plane recently, it was a double decker plane.
I was like, Whoa, because I didn't see, I didn't really get to see the plane. I got on first class when I'm first business class, then went on. And then disabled people, and people with children, small children went on next.
You know, in the economy section, I mean, they went on. And then the rest of the people went on by category, you know, depending on what part of the plane he was in, I guess. Now, I didn't know that there was an upstairs to the plane.
So I'm sitting there, I didn't know. That's where all the business seats were at the front. So we actually walked past the business seats.
And there's a lot of space, you know, it's almost like little cubicles kind of, you can stretch your legs, and there's no one right directly next to you. There's not a big gap to be fair, but it's still, it's still nice, you know, it's you got space to just rest. Now, I didn't go upstairs, I couldn't believe there was a staircase in a plane What's that about? I haven't even got a staircase in my home.
Well, there is a staircase, but it's outside. It's not actually in my house. It's not outside in the street.
It's outside of, you know, there's a building that does have a staircase, but I don't have a staircase in my actual home itself. And I didn't get to see what first class was like. But I know it costs a lot of money.
I think the business class was about two or three grand. And so I'm guessing first class probably a few few thousand pound more than that. It's like, wow, if I had the money, not if I had the money, I mean, not if I just could just about afford that.
But if I was rich, I would go first class. Because you might as well, isn't it? I mean, there's, there's a YouTuber, PewDiePie. And I've mentioned him a couple of times.
He's the top YouTuber in the world. He is. He's got the most, the most subscribers of anyone.
I mean, he's got 110 million subscribers. Now, I'm not sure if he, I think other YouTube channels get more views than he does. So I don't think he's got the most views of everybody.
He's got the most subscribers. And he's had billions and billions and billions of views of his channel. And he's a really nice bloke.
And he's funny. And he's just, you know, you can see if you watch him, you can see why he's popular. Now, he moved to Japan.
Now, I'm not stalking him, by the way, I just watch his videos sometimes. And they're not really aimed at me. You know, I'm not a gamer.
So a lot of stuff he likes to game, play games, and I'm not a gamer. So that doesn't interest me. And but some of his blogs and his vlogs and stuff I'll watch.
And he did a vlog where he moved to Japan. So he was living in England just before he moved. And as he was leaving, as he was leaving, moving, he showed his house on his camera.
He said, well, you can see it now now that I'm moving. Because you know, he didn't want everyone to know where he lived. And he he's got got a little dog.
I think it's a pug, pug dog. And a big eyes, breathing problems. I don't have great breathing.
And he say he was moving to Japan and he was struggling to because you know, he's living there now. This is something he's planned for years and with his wife and his little boy, his dog, his son. And they, he had problems with the airlines.
So he ended up getting a private just renting a private jet or private plane to take him to Japan. I think I'd have just done that to start with. When the bloke is a multi multi millionaire, probably one of the among the richest YouTubers in the world, just but I don't know.
I mean, if you're if you're rich, and to rent a plane to take you to somewhere like, I don't know, Japan, and it's, it's a fair distance, isn't it? I mean, that might be like 50 grand, $50,000, or if maybe more. And that's a lot money. It's just, I don't think it matters.
I don't know. I guess it's possible to get to a point where 50 grand is nothing. If you've got so much money, that, you know, the perspective is that 50,000 pound is just spare change.
I can't imagine it. Well, it's hard to imagine. So never been anywhere near that situation.
I've never had 50 grand. I've never, I've never seen that much money. But I imagine, you know, for some people, even if they've got 20 million in the bank, the idea of spending 50,000 pound just on a plane flight is hard, hard to comprehend for anyone.
Because most people are not born into money. I mean, some people are and good luck to them. Wish I had been, you know, people might, oh, you were born into money.
They were born into money. Never had to work. They were born into money.
Just jealous. The only people who say that are jealous. Whenever I said it, it's because I'm jealous.
I'd love to have been born into money. I'd love to have inherited loads and loads of money and a big mansion and all that. Of course, I would.
What's the point in lying? I'd love that. I wouldn't want to inherit it. Someone having to pass away for me to have it because I'd rather everyone stay alive.
Because I'm quite naive like that. But yeah, it's like, do you want do you want a million pounds? Yes. Well, I thought you're devoting your life to helping people.
Well, I am kind of trying to. But it doesn't mean I want to live in poverty while I do it. You know, it'd be nice to have a really decent lifestyle and to live somewhere like a really nice home and all that stuff.
Of course, it would be. Wouldn't stop me from doing what I'm doing. I'd still make my podcasts and still hopefully be useful to society in my own little way.
But, you know, I'd instead of when I finished a recording, I'd pay someone else to do the editing. And instead of doing it on a iPad and a microphone, you know, I'd have a recording studio in my home with a production, you know, a digital engineer or whatever they're called to run the studio. So I'd go in and I'd do what I'm doing and they'd be doing everything else.
I mean, to be fair, I wouldn't really want them there because, you know, I like to have a bit of privacy when I do stuff like this. But so maybe have it so I can't see them. They can be in a different room.
But the result would still be kind of similar. I'm guessing it just it would be instead of using a. I don't know. 500 pound microphone, I'd be using a 20,000 pound microphone or whatever, and I'd be using top of the quality, top quality equipment.
A professional equipment. But I don't think that'd make too much difference anyway, because I think the quality generally is fairly I'm talking about the the quality of the recording rather than the quality of the content. I mean, no one's going to argue about the quality of the content, are they? I think we can all agree it's pretty poor.
It's pretty, pretty, pretty poor. Yeah, I was going to read out messages when I and I forgot I forgot it. Oh, well, please confirm, Jason, you're our June winner.
Go away. Leave me alone. I'm not a June winner.
I don't want to be a winner of anything. Leave me alone. You'll just spam, spam, scam.
Spanish. So, yeah, I don't know what my point was about the going to Japan. It's just it was interesting to see moving to Japan.
So it must have been something that PewDiePie has been wanting to do for a long time. It's what he said, but it takes quite a lot of planning to immigrate. Mind you, is it immigrating when you're already from another country anyway? I don't know, because he's from Daneland or Sweden or somewhere.
So. And then he moved to England and has moved to Japan. So I don't know.
I mean, mind you, talk about boxing. I know we weren't, but I am now. Jerry Buckner.
Is it Jerry Buckner? He. No. Jerry.
Jerry could say Jerry Buckner. Buckner. I think it's Jerry.
But anyway, Buckner, Buckner, he's a boxer heavyweight. One of the top heavyweights of the 70s, Buckner was. And he if he'd have been around now.
He'd be a world champion, you know, if he'd have been around in the 90s, like, you know, in his prime or the 2000s, he probably would have ended up winning a world title because he went the distance with Ali. I think he went the distance of Ali. He went the distance with Holmes and I think he went a distance with he never got knocked down.
And he he basically. And this is when it was 15 rounds. He went the distance.
He didn't win the world title. But in those days, there wasn't lots of world title opportunities. You know, now there is four world titles, your WBA, WBC, IBF and WBO.
And you've got the ring magazine title as well. That's that belt. And then you've got the linear belts.
It's like six things. So if you let's say, for example, Tyson Fury, he said he's retired. After his last.
He had a defense defended his WBC world title and the I think he's the ring magazine title and he's the linear champion, which means he he fought the man. I say man because he's a man. He fought the man who beat the man who beat the man who beat the man, you know, so it goes back.
So technically, you could have six titles as a heavyweight. So if Tyson Fury retired and then he comes back and he has no belts because he's had his belts taken off him or he's given them up. Whoever he fights, if they win, they become the linear champion.
Because he's still the linear champion, even though he's retired. So if he comes back and fights, if they beat him, they become the linear champion. So although they don't have a belt, although I don't know it might come with a belt, I don't know.
But they can say, well, I'm the linear champion. Which is what Tyson Fury was doing before he before he fought for the world title again. He was that's what he was calling himself.
He said I'm the linear champion. I've never been beaten. Therefore, I am the champion.
And then you got the the ring magazine. So you could hold the ring magazine title and that's a belt. So you could technically be the ring magazine heavyweight champion.
Or you could be the WA, WBC, IBF or WBO heavyweight champion. So, you know, in the 70s, it was one belt. I know they made another one after a while.
I think what they did was with I think it was with Holmes. They created a new title and let Holmes be the world champion there and he gave up the other one. It was the initial one was I think WBC was the world champion belt and then the IBF came along.
This is from my memory. The Holmes gave up the WBC belt and was just awarded the IBF heavyweight championship belt and he just took that. He didn't win it because he was the first person to have it and then he defended that belt.
You know from then on. So other people fought and people like Pink and Thomas and Witherspoon and various different people had the WBC belt after that and Holmes carried on. So I think Holmes, yeah, Larry Holmes carried on with the with the IBF.
Anyway about Buggner, Joe Buggner, not Jerry, Joe Buggner. He was really good and he would have won one of the titles but because back then there was like one title most of the time he didn't get a chance to win because he wasn't quite he wasn't as good as Larry Holmes or Muhammad Ali or Joe Frazier. He wasn't quite at that level.
He wasn't he was nearly at that level but they they pipped him at the post as it were. Why are you talking about Joe Buggner for? I don't know. I'm not really sure how I got on to him.
How did I get on to Joe Buggner? I think it annoyed me because you know I've because I've been fed spoon-fed like we are in this country. In England was spoon-fed by the newspapers, radio, television. Spoon-fed this information.
This sound like disinformation but this information that they give and some of it is disinformation and it's biased and it's almost distorted and so I'd you know I saw for example Joe Buggner fight Frank Bruno in I think it was 85 maybe 86 and Joe Frank Bruno knocked Joe Buggner out in well quite early on but Joe Buggner was an old man he would think he was in his late late 30s or 40s or whatever and Frank Bruno is still fresh young and up and coming.
I mean he had been beaten once by Bonecrusher Smith in about 83 but you know he was and just Joe Buggner looked ridiculous compared to him. Now I didn't realize how brilliant I say brilliant but how great Joe Buggner was in his prime.
He was I mean I think he probably would have beat Bruno if it had been in his prime. I mean technically Bruno would have been about nine years old but you know I'm saying if they were both the same age but he was he was a force to be reckoned with so I'm not I can't believe how the mistakes that get made though on TV and in documentaries. I watched this documentary and it was about I watched some of it I had to turn it off because I kept getting stuff wrong so this was the Frank Bruno versus Mike Tyson fight and the fight was in um where was it I think it was 89 the fight that they had was 1989.
Yeah I'm pretty sure it was 89 and I remember I was working in yeah it was 89 because I was working in this tank freight place where they they transferred like diesel and various liquid gases and stuff and I was in the office doing admin and I remember the lorry drivers were arguing about who would win and I really thought Frank Bruno had a chance you know my I wanted Frank Bruno to win I was a big Mike Tyson fan but you know I loved Frank Bruno I grew up as a child with Frank Bruno
on telly and he was he was more than boxing you know he was a celebrity and he was very much loved in this country probably probably the most loved boxer out of everyone out of all the boxers as well of my generation now Henry Cooper was a huge hero and but he was 60s in the 60s he was a big big big big star and he was still doing adverts in the 80s when he was and the 90s you know when he was like an old a much older man he used to do adverts with
Kevin Keegan advertising Brute yeah it's like make it Brute 15 on the 25th or something I think he used to sing and they'd be in the locker room spraying deodorant over each other and kissing no they didn't kiss but it was Kevin Keegan had his big curly hair and he was young I think he was still a footballer at that point so this was early 80s early 80s but I know that there were other boxers that were absolute legends like in the 50s the 40s the 30s the 20s huge stars in this country like absolute
and that was without television that was without uh well there were newspapers but there was no um less less promotion I guess word of mouth and they were absolute mega stars of boxing and I'm trying to think of someone I mean Henry Cooper was a huge star but there were other heavyweights before him that was big stars as well there was a flyweight or featherweight that was huge I think he was from Swansea or something massive star so lots of lots of big stars in boxing over the years but in my kind of generation Frank
Bruno was the most famous and Barry McGuigan was very famous as well Lloyd Hunnigan was really famous for a while because what Lloyd Hunnigan did and anyone that doesn't you mean if you're listening to this just casually just listening just because you're bored mind you it's not something to listen to when you're bored is it really because it's boring ah but you know if you you can google some of these names Lloyd Hunnigan he I didn't really know who he was until he fought for the world title in 1986 and in those days and this
was I was working in the chip shop and the fights would be on on Saturday night now I don't know if they showed them live they might have done but it would be early hours of the morning like two three four o'clock in the morning I don't know because I was never awake at that time but they might well have done that but then they repeated it about 10 o'clock in the morning again so they did that with the Tyson fight when he won the world title for the first time against Trevor Burbick they also
did it with Lloyd Hunnigan when he fought Donald Curry now Donald Curry was the favorite Lloyd Hunnigan I think was a replacement for for an opponent and no one gave Lloyd Hunnigan a chance because apart from himself because in his trainings I guess but Don Curry Donald Curry was he'd already won world titles at different weights he was the undisputed so he held all three belts that's how many there were at that time there was no ring magazine belt back then there was no WBO belt there was just IBF WBC WBA that's enough isn't it
and I guess lineal as well so he held all the titles Donald Curry and I think he was pound for pound number one so he was classed as the best the best boxer out of everyone by skill so what they do pound for pound obviously you know someone like Donald Curry it might weigh 10 stone he's not gonna be able to fight someone like Mike Tyson that weighed 15 stone because even though he had maybe way better skills as a boxer and although at that time 1986 Mike Tyson was phenomenal boxer yeah he was knocking
everyone out but his his defense his movement he was I'd say pretty perfect to be fair anyway Donald Curry I mean Mike Tyson would have been in the pound for pound but I think Mike Tyson hadn't won the world title at this point he won in November of 86 Donald Curry won it earlier and Lloyd Hunnigan won it earlier in the year so Mike Tyson wasn't he was known in America wasn't really known anywhere else I knew of him because I used to watch the boxing TV show once a week and every week they showed
Mike Tyson's latest fight because he was the wonder kid you know he's a teenager and he took up boxing as a professional at the age of I think 15 or 16 or 17 or whatever and he was fighting every few weeks and knocking out grown men and so that you know it was exciting as I used to see that every week I think it was a program called seconds out it was on Tuesday evening at 11 o'clock or something so I didn't know who Lloyd Hunnigan really was and then I watched him beat up completely
dominate Donald Curry and in the end Donald Curry quit on the stool couldn't couldn't carry on so Lloyd Hunnigan won all the belts unified world champion in spectacular style and he was so flashed the way he did it as well and I just he was I was a huge fan from then on and I watched every single fight that he was in because once he won the world titles he was fighting in this country so he was filling Wembley out and he was defending it in this country and he was brilliant absolutely brilliant and I
actually saw him once so I'll probably mention this when I was doing security he went to the reception so I've kind of walked him through to reception because I that this is when we had to sort of that's why I was there for security to check people and so we let him in and he had an appointment I think he was being interviewed on for the TV show this part of the building part of the company and the reception says oh yeah couldn't who are you please and I was like you don't know who he
is Lloyd Hunnigan world champion two-time world champion and I was like a fan boy I didn't realize it just just blurted out my mouth and he looked at me and he smiled I said he's one of the greatest boxers we've had in this country and this was like 96 so 10 years after he become famous and I think his career was over by the early 90s I think he retired maybe 93 92 93 and I was so excited to meet him honestly and I mean this is what 96 2006 16 20 so that's what 20
26 years ago I'd still be talking to him now honestly I would I'd still be talking his ears he just all it would be I said his ears would be bleeding from all my talking all would be left to him would just be his ears just you know just like rip them off and run off and left me with his ears on a table like and another thing I can't believe when I first saw you fight I didn't know who he was the way you beat him yeah so I was a bit of a fan
boy couldn't help it I was a fan and I'd seen him every single fight he had I watched but going back to Mike Tyson and the Frank Bruno documentary now they got some things wrong and it just annoyed me because you know it's a documentary this is supposed to be factual and I know it doesn't matter really it doesn't really matter however they he did an interview with Mike Tyson and he was on the Wogan show it wasn't Terry Wogan interview and it was a different person but it was the Wogan show anyway and I
used to be on about seven o'clock on a weekday and he had his world title belt with him I think it was the first title belt I think he came on with it and they were talking about oh you just won your world title but they put down 1984 in the you know like you know Shepard Bush studios September 1984 something like that he won the title in November 1986 so he didn't he no one had heard of him in 84 it wasn't even a professional boxer in 84 you know I think he he basically
he became world champion in about a year and a half of being professional he was you know it's to get something like that wrong means that they had people working on a documentary that really didn't care about what they were doing and I watched I know it's a bit petty but what else did they get wrong I just felt like I couldn't trust them anymore this is like it's the end of the relationship the other night I was watching a world title fight and it's a Don King promoted fight and Don King was the biggest
promoter biggest baddest promoter in history I'm pretty sure he promoted the rumble in the jungle and Thriller in Manila and you know these massive huge fights with Muhammad Ali and then he he promoted Larry Holmes he kind of had control of the heavyweight title for a long time so he put on a lot of huge stadium events now he's I think he's in his 90s and he puts on events now and I watched I think three of them and the first two were just all really there was nothing wrong with the boxing itself the boxers
were okay but the way it was put together you know at least there wasn't even half full and the venue was tiny it was like a gymnasium you know it wasn't like a stadium or even an arena it was just like a gymnasium it was it was no more than what I imagine you get with a like a charity boxing match where people have seats and they sit down have a meal and then they then they watch some boxing it was that kind of things like yet televised and being charged to watch it on telly
so I'll kind of okay fair enough there was a couple of fights I wanted to watch so I did pay twice and this weekend just gone Daniel Dubois was fighting for the world heavyweight title it's the lower version of what Tyson Fury has he's got the WBA super title and Daniel Dubois fought for the WBA regular heavyweight title against Trevor Bryan who is the title holder now right at the beginning I wanted to watch it so I did I found a way to watch it even though it was in America and I had to get
I had to do some fiddling around and some internet maneuvering and stuff in order to get to watch it but I did got to watch it and again another little like gymnasium half of it was seats with tables and tablecloths where they must have just had meals that's the part that Don King and look like just invited his family and friends there on that side of the ring the other side of the ring was some chairs put out and I don't think there could have been more than a few hundred people seriously a few maybe
400 people watching it's a world heavyweight title fight and it was a charity gig as well they were giving money to to something so it was it was a charity thing so like but even that having a world heavyweight title fight it was being televised because BT sport was showing it as well as well as how I managed to watch it on fight tv which is an app yeah they didn't they didn't fill all the seats they did it's like there's a whole area of seats that weren't even touched just empty it's like how how
can you go from being the biggest boxing promoter to putting on so I'm not being I'm not I'm not even being rude here I could have filled that out myself I don't mean by just sitting down because I take up so many chairs because I'm so fat I don't mean that what I mean is I could have filled that room with people sitting even if they came for nothing if they came for free you know just I'd have filled the seats there's enough people just in my little town that would love to have come to
that there's enough boxing fans and people that would have if that had been in England that would have been full up in fact if that had been in England they could have held that at Wembley not maybe the stadium but there they got there they got I reckon they could have filled that with 50 60 000 people to watch Daniel Dubois fight for a world title loads of money could have been gotten from that instead it was in I just I just like Daniel Dubois won the fight easily knocked out Brian but it's like and
he's and because the last couple of years a lot of his fights have been behind closed doors with no audience as well because he's quite a new he hasn't been around for very long about four years so half of his career has been with no audience I kind of feel sorry for him a bit and then he wins the world title and he's there's no one hardly there at all a few of his friends that came over with him when they could have sold out maybe not you know maybe not Wembley but he's he's a
well-known boxer over here in England Daniel Dubois he's exciting he's big he's you know he's a hard puncher so he's exciting maybe they couldn't fill Wembley but they could definitely have filled an arena over here 100 percent so I reckon Don King just didn't want to travel maybe his age is dangerous to travel I don't know when you get that old maybe he's worried his legs will fall off or something I don't know but all his hair falls off I mean he has to make sure I mean if you've seen Don King's hair it sticks
on end he has to get electrocuted every three seconds to keep his hair sticking up like that so maybe he wouldn't be allowed to take that on the plane I just want this little hand you know when you shake hands with someone and it buzzes I think he's just got one of those so it's not like high high voltage but it keeps his hair sticking up and I don't know if that's true but I was just bliming this is ridiculous poor Dubois I mean you win a world title fight even okay it's not someone's argue
someone argues saying well it's not the proper title it's the it's the lower title it's the regular title not the super title that Tyson Fury has okay I'll counter I'll counter argue that that argument um Tank Davis one of the biggest most popular boxers say in America he holds the regular title in the lightweight division I think is the regular title he doesn't hold any of the big you know the super titles or anything and he's a bigger draw than anyone else in the lightweight division he's super popular and his pay-per-view he headlines shows pay-per-view
as well as fill in every stadium or anywhere he fights he fills because he's so popular so you know anyone that says oh the title doesn't mean anything well a lot of people would class him as being the best lightweight but then other people would argue saying Devin Haney is because he holds all the other titles oh who's Devin Haney don't ask me questions so the other thing that annoyed annoyed me about the fight on Saturday night the Daniel Dubois Trevor Bryan fight is just before the fight started it said both their names now they
spelled Daniel Dubois name perfectly which I'm surprised considering it's like a French name and um Dubois I know how to spell it but I might not have known to start with like d-u-b-o-i-s it's like Dubois I'd have to look at it first before I knew how to spell it they spelt Trevor Bryan's name wrong so he's the world title holder he's the American it's his fight he's the reason it's on you know he's the he's promoted by Don King but they spell his name his name b-r-i-a-n when his name's actually b-r-y-a-n and it's on his
shorts Bryan b-r-y-a-n I'm guessing he knows how to spell his own name at the moment I mean you know a few years time who knows but at the moment how could they get that wrong how I just don't understand and I know it's not a big deal but I kind of get a little bit worried because you know you know if you give your credit card number to a company that you're paying to watch a fight but people in that same company can't even spell the name of the boxer correctly are they going to be
doing everything else correctly I don't know I'm not sure how much I could trust the company like that they can't do the most basic they corrected it by the way they corrected it later on but then I saw the same thing it was with I think it was Sky Boxing and they're reading out the right at the beginning reading out the record of the boxer so that's saying oh he's got 14 wins two losses 11 wins by KO but they had something completely different on the screen 14 is like 14 wins 17 losses like what
so you know they're not always on the ball I'm sure it's like maybe it's the same person maybe he's moonlighting some will by night some will by day moonlight okay so maybe maybe it's the same person I say give him give him or her a chance to to or it or penguin or whatever it is that's just working there but give them a chance but come on you know it's not I wouldn't have thought it'd be that complicated but I get the sense that maybe Don King does everything himself he's a shortcut man I think
he's he's he cuts corners and although he's got estimated 150 million in the bank it's almost like he doesn't want to spend any more money which I find annoying because you know he's he hasn't got realistically he's not gonna be around for a huge amount of time just I mean just statistically he's why not enjoy himself and put on the biggest best shows that's ever existed in this generation why not put in a modern day version of the jungle in a rumble or the miller and franilla why doesn't he do something like that and because
all he has to do because if it goes to a bid a burst bid a burst bid a purse bid whoever puts the most amount of money up wins the purse bid which means then they kind of take control of the whole event they get to show it they get to charge people for it and you know they're in charge the whole thing they also have to pay the boxers and everyone else so with a heavyweight fight he could come in and just put up way more than anyone else does because he's got the money
personally and put on the best heavyweight fight of all time and have all literally have five fights in a row all top heavyweights you know have the best heavyweights in the world all fighting each other in the same ring on the same night not the same time but you know one after another and then ultimately culminating in the world heavyweight title or maybe two world heavyweight titles depending on how many there are or three so you could have one so you could have like the best you could have the the head of the thing you
could have um Anthony Joshua or whoever's got the three titles so let's say Alexander O'Neill Usyk defending his three titles and then before that you could have Tyson Fury defending his title and before that you could have Daniel Dubois defending his title and then before that you could have um I don't know like Joe Joyce fighting another up-and-coming you know future star maybe for for another belt or you could have a competition like one night of everyone fights three rounds each for two minutes per round and they just gets it just gets mixed up so
you got five fights and they got um let's say 10 fighters 10 fighters and at the end of it all the world titles are all held so you've got 10 fighters and um all the world titles are taken away from everyone consolidated and they say whoever wins the final fight is that person is the world title holder of all the titles but do it all in one night so um three rounds two minutes each round and just have so this is 10 fighters so it's five fights to start with or now I probably have to
see five fights now I would work with it you have to start off with eight 16 so let's say eight eight fights so let's say there's 16 people I say eight people so four fights to start with so it says eight fighters four fights then two fights then one fight so there's four five six seven seven fights to find the title so eight fighters it'd be good I mean this stuff is done you know um prize fighter and stuff there's where people fight three fights in the same night but you know have shorter fights and
the final is like eight rounds so instead of 12 rounds which is too much if you've already had three fights but have an eight rounder for the final fight eight rounds at three minutes and some fight I know some fighters say nope I don't want to do that and then you offer them the money and they say well actually everybody that participates gets paid a minimum of five million each just by just by participating and then whoever wins takes home 50 million so you get five million for coming or four million for turning up and
then you get fit you win 50 million if you win the overall one I don't think many boxers would turn that down so that's like a hundred yeah a hundred million whatever to put that on but imagine how many people would want to watch it it'd be huge absolutely huge it'd be one of the most watched boxing matches or events ever they'd get their money back I'm pretty sure they'd get their money back and more they'd make money out of that because it's such a big thing and also let everybody so I don't I'm not
into this whole like oh sky or bt sport or hbo or espn or I don't know different like oh they're the ones that are now presenting it let everybody you know stream it let everybody stream it and then you just go to use whatever platform you like let bt sport let sky the zone let them all stream the fight and you just use a platform this is get more people watching it I mean limiting it to just one platform so just seems a bit sad let everybody show it you get a bigger audience in fact
show it on tv charge them for it but you know that's something I sometimes think that if I was ever obviously I'm not but if I'd been a boxer I'd much rather have had my fights aired on normal television you know itv or bbc than being on sky because although I'd have made more money being on sky the audience people would know who I was if I was like a world let's say I win a world title if I'm on tv normal tv I'm going to be known by people that don't even watch boxing because
it's going to be promoted it's going to be advertised and like people get to see me but being on sky I'm I'm into boxing I'm a big boxing fan and I've even not known about certain boxers like in the past when I didn't have access to sky there was world title world champions I didn't even know about from this country because I didn't really read the newspapers so I didn't get to read the sports sections and I didn't watch sky sports so I didn't know about these boxes that were world champions now if they'd have
been on itv or bbc one on a Saturday night I'd have known about them and I'd have watched them and I'd have been a fan and millions of people millions and millions more people would know who they were I mean that's why a lot of cricketers and footballers can keep their careers going for the rest of their life doing panel shows and being on tv pundits and stuff like that because they're known because they've been seen on telly not just on sky not on a internet you know they've actually been seen by millions and millions
of people throughout their career anyway this has been a little bit pointless but hey I'm going to go thank you for listening remember to be kind to yourself because you deserve to be happy be kind and be gentle with yourself lots of love bye
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