#717 Let me bore you to sleep - SEAN LOCK WAS BRILLIANT - Jason Newland (3rd September 2021)

Hello and welcome to Jason Newland dot com. My name's Jason Newland and welcome, welcome to Let Me Bore You To Sleep. Hey.

Please only listen when you can safely close your eyes. That was a very silly way to start this extremely serious podcast. Very, very, very silly.

Hello. Hello, how are you? So, yeah, here we go. Here we are.

Friday, the 30th of September 2021. Oh, we've got September. Four months.

Four months of the year left. Wow, baby. Wow.

Four months. So there you go. Hey, that's all I got to say.

I've got now to talk about. But it's never stopped you before though, has it? No, it hasn't. So, yeah, this is just me on my Friday evening.

It's 21 minutes past 11 in the evening. So. I'll be making probably making earlier recordings a little bit earlier lately.

This is pretty the latest one I've done in a few days and I'm trying to do them every day. I am. Honestly, I am.

Not that you appreciate it. You don't even notice when I do my hair, do you? I went to the hairdresser's and you didn't even notice. I. I think yesterday I did about 1030 in the evening.

The day before that, about 830 in the morning, in the evening, rather. And yesterday, well, actually, it was early hours in the morning, but I still put it down as yesterday. I did.

A deep sleep whisper, which I'm planning to do as well today. As far as I'm concerned, the day ends when I go to bed. In my in my brain, in my little brain.Me tiny little, tiny little witty brain. I do think, you know, the day ends when I go to bed. And pretty much most people do, I think.

So people go to bed at 10. The day's ended, isn't it? At 10 o'clock, even though it doesn't end until, you know, 1159 and 59 seconds. That's the end of the day, really.

But to people who go to bed at 11, it ends at 11, you know. So I'm probably, probably going to go to bed about. About, I don't know, two o'clock this morning, I go to bed.

So that's when the day ends for me. So anything I do between now and two o'clock, any recording will be the 3rd of September. Won't be the 4th, it'll be the 3rd.

And then when I wake up tomorrow, whatever time I do it between then and when I finally go to bed, will be the 4th of September. And so on. Does that make sense? I don't know.

It doesn't have to, really. It's just, it is how I do it. It's how I do it.

And you know, even though, even though I have my desk. And it's a big, it's not a huge desk, but it's a fairly good sized desk. It's still clogged up with stuff and with wires getting tangled with each other, with the various different bits of hardware.

And it's annoying. The whole point, I mean I've got another desk to assimilate. Assimilate? Assemble.

I'm going to be walking around with part desks sticking out of my bum. I've assimilated it. It's part of me.

I'm going to, I'll hand it over to Nick, because wherever you sit down, there's just a desk there. You can write your memoirs wherever you are. Yeah, yeah.

So, I need to have a little tidy. Have a little tidy. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

A little bit of tidy. But it's not the first thing I need to tidy, because I really do need to get rid of some of this stuff in here. Stuff that's just in the way, and any flat surface accumulates crap.

It does. I just fill every flat surface. Like Andre used to empty every flat surface, and he'd push stuff on the floor for me.

He couldn't abide a flat surface that had stuff on it. He didn't like it. He had to get on there and push everything with his nose onto the floor.

I'm the opposite. I pick everything up from the floor with my nose and put it onto the flat surface. It's a very similar, but yet different activity.

I mean, every flat surface I'm looking at is just full chocker of rubbish. Absolute rubbish. Not rubbish as in, you know, filthy rubbish that you put in a black bag and you put out in the garden for the seagulls and the cats.

But just bits. Things. Maybe books, and there's a laptop over there, and there's a box, and there's a magazine.

There's a toolbox or tool bag, a tripod for something, a video recorder or something like that, I don't know. A bottle of water, a piggy bank. There's a plate, there's a couple of cans of Coke, empty cans.

It's just bits. On the table there's the iPad, there's a little laptop, there's the roadcaster, there's, what is it, like a data thing. What do you call it? A storage facility.

It's not a card, it's an actual, I think you plug in, but it was, I think it holds, is it 5 terabytes or something. So that's something that I connect to the other laptop. I've got my phone, I've got the remote control, I've got some headphones, two sets of headphones in fact.

One headphone that I use for the telly, which is Bluetooth, and the other headphones that's connected to the Focusrite, which I use when I listen to edit the recordings. And then I've got the cloud filter now that's connected. And then there's the other adapter which connects the Focusrite amplification thing to the iPad.

And of course there's a microphone that's also connected to all that stuff. All these wires, and the microphone obviously is up my right nostril at the moment, so it's just, it's a lot of stuff. And it's in no way, if I'm honest, about me, I do need, on this table right now, if I got rid of everything I didn't need, I would need 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. I'm using 6 items to make this podcast, no 7, no, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. 1, ok the microphone 1, the iPad 2, the headphones 3, the cloud filter 4, the Focusrite thingy, amplification 5, and then the connector that connects them 6.

That's without all the wires, but I'm just going to include the wires in as part of connecting everything together.

So it's 6 things I need to make this recording. 6 things. I remember the old days, just plug a microphone in and just record.

And just upload, no editing, nothing, regardless of how bad the sound was. Even if it was, and you could hear me in the background going, hello, welcome to www.jasonnewland.com. Sounded like I was in a hurricane or something, and I just didn't care, I just uploaded it. Felt pleased with myself, and people still listened.

People actually listened to it. I mean, I don't know why. Why? That's the old days, but now, just all the stuff that goes into just making a voice, just a voice, onto a podcast, onto a, you know, yeah.

I'm not complaining, am I? I'm just moaning, aren't I? Just moaning for no reason. Moaning for no reason. Oh, I did have a message from Rachel, I should read it out, otherwise she'll tell me off.

Where is it? OK. This is from Rachel, this is a Facebook message. Your boring object podcast is even boring for me.

OK, I'm not really sure what that means. And then 1985, and all that is, is Rachel reminding me of something she mentioned about a year ago for me to do, and I still haven't done it. Why is my boring object podcast even more boring for you, Rachel? I don't know, what did I talk about in my last one, was it bricks? I wonder why that is.

I wonder. That's interesting, isn't it? Well, you know. Interesting, well, it interests me, I'm just curious.

I've only done, have I done three? I did one where I was talking about, is it a water bottle, I think. Then I did one where I was talking about, I can't remember, I think I've done three. I will do another one, but I have to be in a very, very straight mood, if that makes sense.

I can't be giggly or anything, because I'm trying to do it, to try and make it serious. Not serious as in, it's a serious subject, but just trying to play it straight. And to not laugh, because some of the things I say are funny, to me.

Because it's so tedious, it's tedium, beyond tedium. It's really, you know, I struggle to do it. Not always, but I've only done three.

But I have done a couple in the past as well. But I didn't call them that, I just did a part of this. I like to mess around, you know.

But they're very, very boring. Just really boring. I know this is boring, but they are really, really boring.

It's the boringest thing that I've done. And I will just, and it's, in a way, in a way, it's me, I might end up talking about stuff that I've done. It might be the same kind of story that I've talked about on this podcast.

But in a very dry way. It's a little bit like yesterday, when I was talking about the given tourist tips. I had to stop myself laughing, because I was trying to do it straight.

I was trying to like, yeah, and this is what you do. I can't remember what I talked about, but I made some stuff up. And I did want to start laughing, but at times I had to press the pause button.

To stop, you know, so you couldn't hear me laughing, because it was just so silly. It was just ridiculously silly. And then I'd press, I'd un-press the pause button, and I'd just go to talk again, and I could just hear myself laughing.

So it's very difficult to keep a straight face when, for me personally, sometimes I find it very difficult, because it's just so silly. So damn silly. And the idea that someone might be listening, be taking it seriously, it makes me laugh.

And if someone did take those tips up, you know, I couldn't, I couldn't be blamed for it. Because stupidity is not an excuse. Within law, you can't, you can't, you can't just say, well, I'm really dumb.

I listened to his podcast, and he said that, you know, you could just, in any fast food restaurant, or fast food takeaway, or any public place, if you're a tourist, you can just walk to the front of the queue and just push people out of the way. You can't, I'm stupid, Your Honour. That's why there was such a big, you know, there was a big fight, and, like, no.

I'm not taking responsibility for that, because I'm not responsible. I'm not responsible for myself. Never mind other people.

Yeah. So what's happening today? What's going on? I haven't been out. I woke up early to help my friend out.

Because he needed to make an important phone conversation. A phone call. So I woke him up to do that, just so he could do that, because it's important.

So I helped him there, and then, I haven't done, I've done quite a bit of, I'm still in the process of adding the podcast episodes onto the podcast's record. Basically, on my website now, we'll just have a look. I'll show you what I mean.

Where is it? There you go. On my website, jasonnewland.com, I've added, before, when you go on there, it's all the latest stuff, yeah? Latest recordings, 1, 3, 6, 9, 12, 18, 30. So there's 30, the latest 30 recordings are on there.

And then below that, there are podcasts, stream and download free. So you've got the latest recordings again, so you can click on that, but that's all the latest. So you probably have a few hundred on there.

And then you've got Let Me Boy To Sleep, Deep Sleep Whisper Hypnosis. So according to this, there's 714 Let Me Boy To Sleeps, which is out. It's not right, I have to update that.

Deep Sleep Whisper 400, again, I have to update that. Relaxed Sleep Hypnosis Daily, 120. Relaxation Hypnosis, Stress, Anxiety and Panic, 274.

Stress and Pain Relief Podcast, 35. Jason Newland's Hypnosis Archive, 50. So I've picked some of the 50 recordings that are not on there at all.

Just older ones that were hopefully fairly audible, you know, listenable to. And what I did add the other day, I had the Stress and Pain Relief Podcast, 35. Oh, wait a minute.

I got that there twice. What on earth is that about? Right, after It's Good Dutch, that's weird. How weird is that? Right, I'll remove that.

Don't need that there twice. What have I got there twice? I don't know. So anyway, that's why it's good to check.

Jason's Bedtime Storytime, there's 22 recordings there. So they're all, that's something I didn't have on there before. I've got Stop Smoking and I've got Jason's Positivity Podcast.

Then under Old Courses, I've got 30 Day Relaxation Plan, 7 Day Cure Insomnia, Fall Asleep Counting Sheep, Healing Words and Hypnotic Buffet. So what I've been doing is I added all the podcasts, all the recordings, the pages. Four pages up for each one.

Embedded the podcast episode into each one so you could stream them. And now I've been uploading the actual recordings so that you can download them for free, as well as stream. And I've done everything except, I'm now on Hypnotic Buffet, so I've got probably about 27 of those to upload.

And that's it. So there's still other things to do. I need to just double check it's all done.

I need to get rid of that Stress and Pain Relief Podcast. Don't need two on there. The other thing, I want to do a podcast, set up that podcast for the, what's it called, the Boring Objects.

Because I've done three now and it's not enough to share. You have to have a few to share it to the podcast directories and that. But it would be good to have it set up so that when I've got a few, I can start sharing it.

So, and then I can, you know, it'd just be good to do that. So once I've done that, I'll also add that to my website. There's also going to be Chronic Pain Sessions that I'm going to add.

So Chronic Pain Relief Sessions. And there's also going to be, yeah, I'll be, I'll be adding, and some of these will be older ones, but it's a Chronic Pain Relief, Relaxation Sessions and Sleep Hypnosis Sessions. So I'll find some older recordings that were fairly listenable to, and I'll put those on there as well.

So there'll be a few other different podcasts, a few other. Well, yeah, yeah, I suppose podcasts, yeah. Because it just makes it a bit easier if you're on a website to find stuff.

So, yeah, I'm quite pleased with how it's going, actually. It's a lot of work though. A lot of, it's not, I mean, you know, it's hard to call this work for someone that's, someone that's working down a mine, you know, or is loading lorries all day or driving a van all day, delivering stuff for Amazon and stuff.

You know, that's, that's a lot of work. This is just, it's just time consuming, I guess, really. It's not difficult.

But then the person driving a van for Amazon might find this difficult because they might not know how to do it. Just like I can't drive. They might not know how to update my websites.

So, yeah, I guess it's, it's, it's not a case of necessarily, it's what you, what you know, isn't it? I guess, just, I guess, I guess, I guess. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Anyway, it's, it's a lot of work. It's a lot of work.

It's hours and hours and hours, but I can't, I can't tell you how many hours, but the website is coming along quite nicely now. There's a lot more to do and it's never going to be completed. But I did update it the last couple of days and there was a lot to do.

A lot of images to make, a lot of all kinds of stuff to do. But now it's nearly up to date. I've not uploaded the latest recordings from yesterday on there yet.

And so, which is okay. It's okay. It's only a day, you know, so they're not being shared on Facebook or anything.

But once I'm up to date, I will be able to do that a bit more. I'll be able to try and share stuff on the actual day to a Facebook, which is kind of the point really. And then once I get my head around how to use, I think it's Headliner, which is an app which I can use to share my podcasts on to Instagram.

So once I get my head around how to use that, I'm going to start using it, which means I should be able to promote my podcast, because I've not really tried on there. And I think Instagram is probably one of the best places to sort of share stuff these days. And also, I guess it's a younger audience, which I don't really... What's the right word? It's a demograph, that's it.

It's a demographic that I don't really have. So the younger audience, most of my audience, according to YouTube, because I do statistics, although I'm not really that prominent on YouTube, although I've got a lot of recordings on there, is sort of 45 plus, and all men apparently, but I don't believe that's true because, well, it's not true. The podcasts, again, the statistics, it's mainly people probably 40 and over.

But it varies, there's people young listening, and people very elderly listening as well. But Facebook demographic, my friends list, is mainly people that are probably kind of above 40. There are lots of people that are under 40, but the majority are probably kind of over 40, maybe 50s, 60s, 70s, some of them.

So I guess to reach a younger audience, as well as, I don't want to change my audience, because I love my audience, you're the best audience in the world, but to maybe try and reach more people, because one thing that the younger audience are more likely to do is to share. To share, so if they like something, they'll share it on their Instagram, or on their Facebook page, or on their Twitter. Twitter, Twitter, Twitter, Twitter.

My audience just doesn't share my stuff on Facebook. I had a couple of people share the other day when I mentioned it, so thank you. But generally, my stuff is just on my page, and I think it's ignored a lot.

And I think partly the reason for that is that those that listen to me, listen to me. You know, they listen anyway, and I think if you're, it's worth subscribing though, hopefully you're subscribed to wherever you listen. But you get, I guess you get notifications when the latest recording is out, I don't know, I'm not really sure how it works.

Which I really should be, shouldn't I, considering this is my, kind of my life. I should be a bit more on the ball, a bit more knowledgeable about the things that I do. But I just ain't, you know, I'm not, I'm not that.

I'm not really sure how it all works, as far as letting people know. I know on YouTube, I get the latest recorded, the latest videos from people that I follow, or that I'm subscribed to, and also, even if I'm not subscribed, YouTube tends to chuck more stuff, more of what I watch at me, which I don't always want, because sometimes, you know, if I'm on YouTube, perhaps I do want to watch 1960 National Geographic, semi-naked tribes, dancing around, topless. So that might, you know, I might watch that.

I don't want lots of that coming through, especially when I've got someone in there, a visitor, and I put YouTube on, and all you see is, it's like, no, that isn't what I watch. Don't know why it came up. I like to look at different things.

I like to, you know, I like to watch, oh dear, I like to watch science stuff. I like to, you know, watch lectures from psychiatrists, and neuroscience, and maybe about AI, I'm quite interested in artificial intelligence. And recently, because Sean Locke passed away, he was very, one of the, for me, one of the best comedians of my generation in this country.

One of the best, you know, he was just brilliant. And, you know, I've been watching this stuff, and since he passed away last week, loads of old footage of him on stage, like at comedy clubs, have suddenly been uploaded. Or maybe they were already there, but it's just like, wow.

So I'm seeing him from, I thought I saw something from 1993 on video today. And I don't remember if I ever actually saw him on stage, Sean Locke. I'm not sure.

Because my memory is that when I started comedy in 91, January 23rd, 1991, he was already a big name. He was the comedian's comedian. So if he was performing, other comedians would go and see him.

He was just, he's already a national hero. It's quite weird. He was a national treasure amongst the comedian organisation, group, or whatever you want to call them.

Weirdos. And he was just admired, really admired for his performance and his comedy. It's very, I guess, a lot different from other people.

Although I did see some similarities between some of the things he did and Harry Hill. Now Harry Hill came after him. He started before Harry Hill.

I'm not saying Harry Hill copied him. But there's a few little bits that he did in his early stand-up that was very surreal. But it was very kind of, but then Harry Hill came along and he did it.

He did that kind of stuff all the way through his act. And I don't know, Sean Locke seemed to just do it a little bit. And then he'd talk about something.

But then he'd just do like a, I don't know. It was just weird. I thought, that's very, because I hadn't seen it before.

Because the last 20 years, Sean Locke has pretty much been doing panel shows. Like comedy panel shows. And he's had a couple of stand-up DVDs.

So he's been touring. So he's been on stage probably thousands of times around the country and different parts of the world. But I never saw him at any theatres or anything.

But he was on television. So that's the only thing I really saw him on. I think the only stand-up I saw him do was when he would host a stand-up comedy show.

Live at the Apollo or something like that. Maybe he introduced the comedy store, Live at the Comedy Store TV show that was on. There's been a few over the years.

So I've probably seen him on those as well. But, I don't know, Sean Locke was, for those not in this country, anyone in this country that lives here. Not that lives here, I shouldn't say that because you might have just moved here.

If you have, welcome. It's not something you're going to hear very often. I, Sean Locke, yeah, if you haven't heard him, just Google him, have a little look.

I might put his picture on this podcast, just so you can see him. He even looks funny. I think he was always a bit of a grumpy old man, but he was funny with it.

And as he got older, he seemed to just be grumpier. And he did the 8 Out of 10 Cats TV panel show, which is hosted by Jimmy Carr. And that's been on TV for a long time, many, many years.

And then they did a crossbreed where it was 8 Out of 10 Cats does Countdown. And Countdown is another show, but it's Channel 4's, I'm guessing, longest running television show. It's been around for 30 odd, 40 years or something.

It's ridiculous. And I don't like it. I really don't.

I don't like the show. And I never have, really, particularly liked it. But it's funny with 8 Out, because 8 Out of 10 Cats is basically that cast on Countdown.

So they make it funny. I prefer just to be how it was, 8 Out of 10 Cats. But then they continued that format, but with different presenters.

So I think Channel 4 has just been a bit greedy on that one. But it looked to me, although he was joking about it, I think Sean Locke really didn't like doing it. He was bored.

So he was getting paid handsomely, I'm sure. And he still told jokes and said funny things. But he looked bored.

You know, especially when it came to actually playing the show. We're having to guess, what do they guess what the word is? Adding up a number or whatever it is. I don't see the point in it.

But he just looked bored. I don't think he enjoyed it. I really don't.

He almost didn't care. Which made it funnier. Because he didn't, I don't think he cared.

But then I kind of don't think he really cared anyway. He had that attitude of, well, either you like it or you don't like it. But he was so talented that people did like it.

I think if he hadn't been talented, he still would have been successful. On a level, not as successful, but he still would have probably had some success. Because it would have been funny just seeing him not caring.

Really not even interested if people were laughing or not. That confidence that comes from not really giving a shit, you know. But check him out anyway.

If you're in another country and you've never heard of him. Sean Lock, S-E-A-N, L-O-C-K. Is there an E on the end? I don't know.

I don't think so. L-O-C-K, I think. There might be an E on the end, I don't care.

Because I'm not going to search for it. Because I already know a fair bit enough about him already. But him and Eddie Izzard, they were the comics comic, them two.

Eddie Izzard went on to be, just as a comedian, a huge, huge star in this country. As a touring comedian. For quite a while, no one touched him.

For his popularity. And there was no one like him. Saying that though.

I'm thinking of all the comedians that went on to be successful. There was no one like Lee Evans, there was no one like Jack D. What other comedians at that time? Harry Hill, there was no one like Harry Hill. What I just said there was, but not really.

Harry Hill went in a completely different direction. It's almost like he created his own version of Surreal. Very funny.

So those are the kind of people that went on to be huge stars. In England, maybe in other countries, I don't know. I'm thinking of people that were around in the early 90s.

Maybe late 80s, early 90s. And were already headlining comedy clubs. Pretty much by about 92.

Because those are the people that I was seeing. And they were headlining. Some of them were friendly to me, some of them weren't.

Alan Davis is another one. Alan Davis, brilliant comedian. And a lot of people that see him on telly won't know how good he was.

As a comedian. Because they may never have seen him on stage. He was brilliant.

Really, so likeable. Which I think that comes across on telly. Because he is a really nice person.

He's just... He said to me, I used to see him at gigs. And he always headlined whenever I saw him. Unless he had another gig to go to.

So he might go on early and then headline at another club. So he would do two gigs in the evening. To make loads of money.

And I saw him at this gig. And I said... And I was chatting to him before I went on. And then I saw him at another gig about a month later.

And he said to me, you alright Jason? And he said... I thought you said if that last gig went really badly you were going to quit. Like that gig did go quite bad. The one that I was with him.

It wasn't that bad. But it's like... And he remembered that. And he started laughing.

Because I was there again. You know, carrying on. Trying to... I don't know what I was trying to do.

Be successful I guess. I probably didn't want anything as much as that. I think I wanted to be... It wasn't about being successful.

Having money. But then money comes with success. In entertainment.

You get money. So you ain't got to think about that. It comes with it.

But I wasn't bothered about the money. Because I was earning £100 a week. Doing really rubbish jobs.

So that I could keep my evenings free. And focus. And not use up all my energy.

I wanted to... I kept it just physical jobs. So that... That were mundane. And non-taxing.

So that I could keep my... I don't know. In my mind. Keep my focus.

For the comedy in the evenings. Whether writing or performing. I don't know what the point was there.

I don't know. But I wanted to be... Yeah, it wasn't about money. Clearly, 7 years.

Of doing it. And I didn't really earn much. Guaranteed.

I didn't... Get anywhere near covering the cost of my travel. That I spent over those 7 years. I was down by... Quite a lot of money.

Because even though it was like only £3. Maybe £4. Per travel.

Sometimes it would be more. Because it may be £10, £15. If it was an overground train.

Going to Kent or Brighton. Or wherever. Outside of London.

All of that together. Maybe twice, 3 times a week. Over 7 years.

Maybe less than 3. But you know, it's quite... Just spread over that time. It was... Because I only remember... I tried to count. I did at least 250 gigs.

Which isn't actually quite... Not a lot if you spread over 7 years. What was it? 51, 52, 50. One a week.

Over 5 years is 250. So... But I did go periods. I went whole periods.

Months and months and months. When I didn't do any. So when I got a job in the bakery.

I couldn't do any gigs. Once I got... Once I worked in the bakery itself. Not in the canteen.

The canteen I could worky. I could do... Gigs in the evenings. Because I never worked in the evening.

But once I went and worked inside the actual... Bakery itself. I was starting at 6 in the morning. Not finishing in.

Sometimes till... And a different shift as well. So sometimes I work... Start at 6 in the evening. Work all the way through the day.

All the night. Sometimes I do double shifts. So I'd end up doing... Yeah.

It was just weird. I think the first... The first week. I did... Over 100 hours.

Did over 100 hours. Not the first week. One week.

Probably a couple of weeks in. I did 100 hours. And I think I took home £250.

Now £250. Back then. In 1991.

For me was a lot of money. Yeah. But it was a lot of work as well.

And it weren't easy. It weren't easy work. It was like constant... Extreme heat.

There was no... So I'd worked in a bakery before. Like when I was a kid. When I was a teenager.

It was a little bakery. It was like a hotel. No, not a hotel.

A restaurant. And although they used to... They kept saying it's not a hotel. I said why do you keep telling me that? They said because you keep going to sleep under the table.

Get up. This is not a hotel. It's a restaurant.

But I used to be able to steal the food. Or the cakes. So every time I took a tray of cakes.

Down into the restaurant. Into the... It was a big old restaurant. And I'd walk through.

And at the front of the restaurant. Where the doors were. They would have bread.

And they'd have cakes. And scones. And... Donuts.

Yeah, donuts. I'm just trying to think the kind of things they'd have. So they'd have all that there.

And they'd be making the bread for the restaurant. Because you know you get through a hell of a lot of bread in a restaurant. Bread rolls.

And they'd also sell them as well on the counter. So on the trip down. I would... Stuff... I'd probably get through a couple.

A couple of cakes every morning. And... Some pastries. But they'd be out of the oven.

So they'd be sometimes a bit too hot. And... And he knew we were doing it. It was not like it was... It was like a secret.

And he'd give us stuff as well. But it was just standard. I was hungry.

I hadn't eaten. Been up since five in the morning. In fact I used to start at five in the morning on a Sunday.

And six on a Saturday. And... I liked it. It was weird.

But I liked working there. Because... Roger his name was. He was the man.

He was the boss of the bakehouse. It used to be called the bakehouse. He was a boss.

And he was one of the owners of the restaurant. And there was two big restaurants. One side each side of the beach.

One side the prom go around. There'd be another one on the other side. They also owned some other stuff as well.

So the family were quite well off. Well I guess very well off. And they owned property.

And I think that... It was their parents that were... That started everything. And then they kind of inherited and took over. I think there was three of them.

Him and his sister. And I think another sister. Now... I always know him and his wife and his sister.

Something like that anyway. But one of his sisters I really didn't get on with. And I used to have arguments with her.

But I got on really well with him. Roger was brilliant. He was so funny.

And he was this big strong man. And you can't... Well bakers are. Because we always lifted heavy stuff.

So you have to be strong to do that kind of stuff. But he was just really, really nice. And would have the radio playing.

Loud. And it was... I don't know. I'm sure it was one of the... I don't know what channel it was on.

I think it might have been one of the illegal ones. You know the ones that were out in the ocean. The pirate stations.

Caroline. Radio Caroline or something like that. Because it was the early 80's.

And I used to... There was like Wham! was on there. And Duran Duran. You name it.

Just all the early 80's songs. And they were current then. I just remember.

Rachel I'm talking about the 80's. In 1985. One of my favourite things to do was to break eggs.

Now. I learnt. Because you know there's ways of breaking eggs.

And if you work in a bakery. You learn how to break eggs. But you don't.

You learn how to break an egg with one hand. And how to. Literally you crack it.

On the side of the thing. And then you. There's a certain technique.

And you can empty the egg out of the shell. Into the bowl. And then shut the shell away.

And you can do it with both hands. So you can do two eggs at the same time. Without any.

Any of the shell going in. And I learnt to do that. And I could literally.

I would break. Dozens and dozens of them. I mean the pile of eggs was huge.

Honestly it was a massive pile. Because they'd be baking so many things. So you'd have the eggs.

And then there'd be. Because they'd be making cakes. Because also upstairs.

There was another restaurant. Which was a bit of a. A bit more posher. And the restaurant upstairs.

More for. Like events like weddings. And things like that.

So. And I worked up there. Once.

Twice. I think I worked up there in the kitchen actually. I might have helped set up once.

Sort of you know. Getting all the restaurant ready. But I think I worked in the kitchen.

One night. They asked me if I'd do that. Because I used to do the washing up downstairs.

Before. Roger asked me if I wanted to work in a bakehouse. So my first job in there.

Everyone's was. Is to do the washing up. I think.

And again we're going back to the. We go back to the early 80s. Okay.

But all the waiting staff were female. There's waitresses. Didn't have waiters.

I'm not quite sure why. But I think that. Okay they might have had waiters.

But they only had. Female. Young.

Staff. So if the young boys would work in the kitchen. In the.

Doing the washing up. And stuff like that. The young girls would work.

Waiting. Like serving food. And maybe clearing tables.

And stuff like that. So it was kind of. That's just the.

What they had going on there. And so you know. I'm not going to judge it.

Because it seemed to work. And it was one of those places where. Thousands of people.

Came and went. Thousands of people probably worked there. Over.

You know 40 year period. Or 50. Years it was going.

Because it's not there any. It's been taken over. It's a different place now I think.

Might still be owned by the same people. I don't know how they've done it. But the place is tiny now.

It's not big. Go in there. Maybe that's because I'm bigger.

You know maybe I'm looking at it. Through different eyes now. But the.

It's almost. Upstairs as well. This is a big old building.

Unless they like. Split the building off. And sold it off.

Split the building in half. And I don't know. I really don't know what's gone on.

Maybe they got rid of the bakehouse. Didn't need that anymore. Because it's now like a bistro.

Or something there. But it was big. It was one of these places that.

Tourists used to stop. Bus. Bus people.

Coach parties. That's the word I'm looking for. They'd have coach parties of.

Elderly. People stopping. From I guess different parts of.

The area. And they'd be full up. Absolutely full.

And in my brain. In my brain. In my memory.

It was a really big. Place. You know.

You could fit hundreds in there. In my memory. If I turn.

Yeah. At least 150 people. Because they were spread out.

It wasn't really squashed. So I'm just thinking. Because you know even.

In the club I used to go to. Comedy club. It was smaller than that.

It was a smaller space. The eating area rather. Was a much smaller space.

Than this restaurant. And you could still sit. 160.

I think. Yeah. So.

This place. But then people were sitting. Side by side sometimes.

As opposed to with. With the restaurant. I think they had like five.

Maybe four. Four. You know that kind of thing.

So there wasn't. And you have to be able to get around the table. The waiting staff.

Need to be able to get around the table. And you need to be able to get your chair. Out from the table.

To get out. And to be able to get around the other tables. If you need to poo or something.

So. You can't have everything. Too stuck together.

Like coffee houses. They're proper squashed. And they some of them.

You know it's not. A huge space. You need to try and get through.

Sometimes. Especially if there's prams. And stuff in there.

It's practically. It's really difficult to sort of. Maneuver yourself around.

You know even for really. Slim people like me. Your.

Your. Your. Now it's a little bit embarrassing.

As I've got my. Sometimes I have not. Children off their high chair.

With my belly didn't mean to. I'm just trying to get around them. The child falls over.

I'm sorry it was my belly. It wasn't me. I've got no issues with kids.

My belly just hates them. I can't help it. It's got a mind of its own.

I want to be squashed. Yeah. I want to be squashed.

I like to. Have a little bit of space. And also.

If there's people sitting right near you. They can hear what you're saying. Because I listen to what other people are saying.

Don't you? Don't everyone? They must do. They must do. Go on you do.

Don't you? That's where I get bored. Sometimes. Because.

I just want to hear. I want to hear what they're saying. And I want to hear interesting stuff.

It's really interesting. Isn't it weird. How rarely and really.

Are so close. It's really. It's really interesting.

What's really interesting. Such a. And it changes the whole meaning. Of the sentence.

I. Yeah that's it really. Yeah. I used to burn my mouth.

I did I used to burn my mouth. On the on the cakes. So I take the down in a trolley.

But not in a basket. Like a brown basket. So he'd.

It wasn't I mean. Roger wasn't the only one that did it. But he he was the boss.

So quite often he's the one that would. Empty the ovens. So empty the tray.

And put it on a cooler rack. And then after a while he would. With a baking oven.

And the baking gloves with gloves on. He would. Then get the tray.

The. Baskets and it empty. The contents of the metal trays.

Into the baskets. And then my job. One of my jobs was to take the baskets.

Downstairs. I don't feel used to. To put them into.

The cabinets we just used to leave them out there. For the staff. To do the presentation.

And to put them into the right places. I don't remember ever having to do that. They you know they're very.

Clued up to know. Leave let people. Who know what they're doing do it.

You know especially if you're working. Selling. Bread and cakes and stuff and that's your.

That's your place where you work. It seems it makes sense. They're the people that would do the.

Put the stuff out. It also makes sense that when they get to work. Everything's there for them.

So all of the bread all of the cakes. All of the doughnuts. All there.

In racks and in the baskets. Already for them to sort of stick into the. The correct.

Places that they needed to be. On the counter in the various glass cabinets and stuff. Well organized.

Very well organized but. They've been doing it for a hundred years or something. So it's almost I guess.

Took no energy really no like. It was just easy wasn't I suppose. So there you go.

I remember when I said to Roger I said. Yeah I'm going to because I realized I was burning a candle. In both ends.

And he said well you need to perhaps see a doctor about that. I said no no I mean I'm just getting. To learn how to use a candle mate.

I said no no. So where did you go to school. I said yeah yeah.

I know how to use a candle. It's not about that it's an expression. He said OK.

I said. Because I realized I was doing all these jobs like. Morning paper rounds all through the week.

Evening paper round all through the week. Monday to Friday. And then Saturday and Sunday I was working.

Mornings doing that. And then I have a. A weekly. Leaflet round where I deliver leaflets.

And then a monthly leaflet round. Or free paper round. So I just didn't have.

I was just always working. When I wasn't at school. And I was very tired when I was at school.

So in the end I thought I'm going to. Give that job up. Which is.

Because it was never paying me much. I was getting paid. I don't know.

50 pence an hour. 70 pence an hour. Something like that.

But then I was working from 6 to 12. So it's 6 hours. So what's that.

6. 1. 6. 1. 6. 1. So I was probably earning what 6 or 7 pounds. For the day. 8 pounds or I don't know whatever it was.

But during the holidays. I did one. At least one summer.

Where I was working every day. I think I was even doing 7 days a week. At one point.

But it was only. You know it's only for a few weeks. You know summer holidays.

6 weeks or whatever. And I could only. And I was probably on a holiday.

With a family for at least 2 of those. Or one of those. So.

I don't know what I did with that money. During that summer holidays. Which we are talking you know.

It was quite a lot of money back then. For a kid. Yeah.

I had more money then. More spending money then. Than I have now.

It's true. Anyway. I want to go now.

I want to go. So remember to be kind to yourself. Because you deserve to be happy.

Do something nice for yourself. Lots of love. Bye.