#595 Let me bore you to sleep

Hello and welcome to jasonnewland.com. My name is Jason Newland and this is Let Me Bore You To Sleep number 7043. Blimey, only listen when you can safely close your eyes, can't believe I've been doing this for so long, 7000 episodes, wow, I remember about 6500 episodes ago there used to be a thing called podcasts, they were quite popular for a while and now of course as we know just tap your left ear twice and you just listen, it's easy. The bilge chip inside your head does the work, it's amazing.

How can you mend a broken heart, how can a loser ever win, how can you stop a world from running, how can the world go by, how can you mend a broken heart, yeah I've been listening to the Bee Gees, the Bee Gees, Bee Gees, I wonder if they came up with that name, it's one of those Google moments isn't it, but I'm not going to, because I'm not that interested in the answer if I'm honest.

Now the statistics of the podcasts have seemed to mend themselves for some reason, I do tend to really live short term sometimes in my thinking, I need to work on that, but it's not the top of the list, so I need to do something, I've got ways of knowing you see, got a nose of weighing, ways of knowing, just based on experience and also other information I have, so Tuesday 2,627 downloads, which is incorrect, the reason I know, Tuesday I should have had 3,500, 6,750, 3,750 at least, that's how many downloads I should have had on the stats, but it's not, so I don't quite know why it's going on there.

Wednesday the stats seem to get back pretty much to normal, 4,657, yesterday, Thursday, 5,373, so even at 5,373, so this is interesting, 5,373, 5,373, yeah, that's about right, Wednesday was wrong, because according to Wednesday I should have had 5,000, at least 5,500 on Wednesday, statistics wise, but it wasn't, it was 4,600, so yeah, so it's nearly 1,000 out, so I'm not sure what's going on, I'm a little bit confused if I'm honest, but they seem to be sorting themselves out, so that's good, I just wasn't, I started to think, oh no, what's going on, I'm

losing my mojo, people don't love me anymore, because it's been four days since I was, it's like, I really should just chill out a bit, you know, if I go a whole month, where I'm getting, you know, 2,000 downloads a day for a month, then yeah, I might as well just pack it in, but it's not the case, it's like a few days where it was, I had a couple of days where it was under 3,000, it's like, wow, and it was a shock, because it hasn't happened for a long time, it's just, it's a

rarity, really, to get under 4,000, 5,000 is about normal now, if I make a recording, and anyway, I won't keep talking about statistics, but it's what drives me forward, I just did, not just did, but you know, in the last recent period of time, I did two recordings, one was a deep sleep whisper, which was a body scan, and it was good, good recording, I know not everyone likes the deep sleep whisper ones, but I have a specific audience that love them, so there you are, and it was a good recording, quite a long one

as well, about half an hour, or longer, maybe, and I also did a, because I've got a podcast, stress, stress and chronic pain relief podcast, which I've only got, I think, two recordings done so far, so this would be the third, I'm also going to share it on the relaxation for stress podcast, and I'll share it on the relaxation podcast, but I've not actually done anything to promote that podcast, because there's not enough recordings on there, there needs to be at least five or six before I share it with the, with iTunes and Spotify and

stuff, so the purpose of that podcast is, what the synopsis, the synopsis is, a pain relief technique is the same as a stress relief technique, now, that's my angle on it, so both are indistinguishable from each other, yeah, see, there you go, I know it's a little bit different, if it's like, okay, for someone that has sciatica, for example, that would be a very focused pain relief technique, I guess, but also at the same time, reducing the stress in that area would reduce the pain or the discomfort, so it's, the podcast is full of, it's

going to be full of techniques, which will both reduce stress and chronic pain, so there, and I'm pretty pleased with the one I've just done, I can't, I can't remember what I did in the first two, but it's been a while since I made one, but I noticed my little, got a little bit of a, a semi, because pain relief is still a passion of mine, I've not, I've not given any attention to it, hardly at all, for ages, and in a way, that's the thing I'd like to give all my attention to, I'm not

going to, because I suppose my skill set is being boring and helping people to relax and fall asleep, and although in my, not so much now, but I suppose still a bit, I was classed reducing someone's chronic pain as being a much more important job than helping someone sleep, but in reality, you know, insomnia is a horrible, horrible thing, and relaxation, people that have got stress and anxiety and stuff, again, I've, I've been through that, and it's awful, so anxiety and stress and insomnia is, can be just as debilitating as chronic pain, sometimes even more

so, I mean, I've got, yeah, I've, I mean, I've got lower back issues, so chronic pain in my lower back, although I'm going to tell you about something in a minute, which is proper exciting, and I, yeah, I wouldn't, I wouldn't swap that for insomnia, you know, I wouldn't sort of take the pain away, but give me insomnia, no one would, I mean, although some people perhaps would, not realising how horrible it is to, to sort of struggle with stuff like sleeping and that, but what I've noticed is, and I guess I've been, maybe I've

been guilty, I, yeah, probably of the same thing, of holding on to a, an issue, a condition, a problem, holding on to it, and starting to believe or accept that it is an undeniable part of my life, an unmovable part of me, and therefore I just have to accept it, and almost embrace it, and the result can be having a closed mind towards changes, towards a reduction of that stress or pain or whatever it may be, and I, I go on to some groups on Facebook, and I usually regret going on to them, because some

of the things that people write is phenomenally, or just, just really out there, and the amount of people that seem to post about not being able to sleep, and it's almost like, you know, become part of my club, I can't sleep, can you sleep, who's, who'd like to join the wider weight club, and it's almost just, well, there are so many things out there, both online and off, that can help with so many different conditions, whether it's insomnia, stress, pain, uh, you know, just whatever it might be, there's lots and lots of help that's available,

and there seem to be a lot of people, just from what I've noticed, and what people write and text and talk about and stuff, that they're not really wanting to let go of it, it's like it's part of them now, and I find that to be a shame, because it's not even that I want them to listen to me, but do something else, I've tried everything, no you haven't, you've never tried everything, there's too many things to try, to have tried everything, I've listened to every hypnotist on YouTube, you haven't, I bet you haven't, you

know, all hypnosis doesn't work, because that one person did it, and that's that one person, it's different types of hypnosis or relaxation sessions, and I can prove it, because I do different types, I'm different from everybody else online, and I'm even different from how I was yesterday, I do different types of recordings, specifically for that reason, to maybe for someone they can find something they like, that's useful to them, that's part of the reason why I've made so many different recordings, and would probably continue to do so, I'm not just doing it to annoy people,

partly, but the thing is, you know, there's also, I can't let compassion go either, I need to keep hold of the compassion towards, you know, it's a group of people that I'm trying to help, so the population of the world that deals with chronic pain on a day-to-day basis, even though probably most of them are very, perhaps be very wary of, or would poo-poo what I do, or wouldn't believe, wouldn't even, I'll tell you what it is, it's, it can be very difficult, and I understand this, it can be very difficult for someone to get

their head around the idea that listening to someone like me, some random weirdo on the internet talking about stuff, not even doing hypnosis in a way that other hypnotists do it, and why are you not, you know, why are you doing it different, you're just talking, what, how is that going to help me?

So the idea that listening to someone like me, or me, would help that person with maybe a condition that they have really been having a hard time with for maybe a long, long time, and maybe they've tried lots and lots of different ways to try and help themselves, and maybe they've given up.

So the idea that they're going to listen to me, and something's going to change inside them, is, I guess it's quite, I suppose, quite difficult to grasp, or to get, you know, to wrap your mind around that idea that I would, that I can help. So that can be a bit of a block, a barrier, let's face it, someone not listening to my recordings is not going to benefit from my recordings. That's not totally true.

Because if you're, you know, someone's got chronic pain or stress, they're possibly going to be quite grumpy as a person, perhaps a bit more often than normal, which is understandable. So if they're in a relationship, living with someone, and they perhaps listen to me, and relax more, start to appreciate themselves, start to realize that there is more to them than they realize, there's more to their life than the discomfort that they used to experience, then they'll be happier within themselves, which will improve the quality, possibly, of their relationship. So their partner, husband, wife, spouse, cat, ferret, pigeon, whatever, communication may become nicer.

And, you know, so other people can benefit, perhaps, who haven't listened. By, is it, would the correct word or term be by proxy? I don't know, possibly, possibly. Some people might think, well, you really think a lot of yourself, don't you? You think you can not help people with chronic pain, do you? Take it away, can you? Can you? Can you? Well, are you a wizard? Yeah, it's witchcraft.

No, there's no buried onions involved in this. This is, it's using science. Really, it is.

It's using science, psychology, science. It's using, hello, Andre. Hello.

I know that it might seem, he is so cute. He really is. He's got such a cute little face.

He's so cute. Yeah, it might seem like I'm making it up as I go along, but I suppose, partly, I am, maybe. I create my own stuff.

I create my own, I don't write, I don't read scripts. I don't prepare, generally, what I'm going to say before I start recording. I know what the outcome is that I'm aiming for, usually.

Plus, I've got many years of experience. I mean, don't forget, I've been doing this hypnosis stuff since 1998. So I was at 23 years.

It's quite a long time. Quite a long time. Yeah.

I was in my 20s. Seriously, I was 27 years old. 27 years old.

I'm now 50. 27. It was literally January 1998 when I bought my first two hypnosis books and I started training at a college, probably about April time, May time.

I did some evening courses at City University in London, East London. East, yeah. It was near, where was it near? It was near an eye hospital.

It wasn't far from Shoreditch. It was that area. So yeah, I've been doing this a long time.

I remember the very first recording I ever did and I was at my cousin's, and this is probably 2000. Yeah, probably 2000, year 2000. And we were making some recordings, singing some songs and stuff.

And I decided to go for, you know what, I want to do a recording, do a hypnosis recording. So I just recorded myself. And even then, right, 21 years ago, this was, the quality of that recording is better than anything that I've done.

Seriously, he had a proper setup, like a recording studio. And yeah, it was really, his dad was in a band, professional musician. And so yeah, better quality sound than even now.

And I remember I did this recording, I said, oh, and I was, it was just a relaxation session, as I relaxed. And I just turned it into something really weird, just dodgy, you know, really just like joking around. So that didn't really go anywhere.

But I think it sparked something in me. Because back then, there was no way of sharing it. I mean, the internet was in his infancy.

And to download, I mean, it would be, it would have been impossible to download a 30 minute or 20 minute recording. There was no way of doing it back then. It was, I mean, I'm sure there was a way of doing it, but I didn't know how.

And you know, even downloading short songs of three minutes, was, you know, quite a new thing. Long recordings, selling them as CDs would have been kind of the only way. And back then, again, it was, you know, getting recording deals and things.

So that just wasn't going to happen. I mean, realistically, I probably could have done something, you know, sold CDs, and maybe had a clip of the recording on a website. Because I did have websites back then.

My first website I ever had was called Tidy Search. And it's going to be my search engine. Well, it was my search engine, but it was hand built.

It was more of a directory. Well, it was a directory, it wasn't more, it was a directory. And it, yeah, it was just basically just copying stuff out of telephone books.

Now if I'd have stuck at it, because it was really well organized, and it was long before the internet really had much in the way of directories. There was a couple of it, yell.com, I'm not sure if that was about yet. And there's loads of online directories.

But I'd have been one of the first. And if I'd have kept at it, I probably would have managed to earn a living out of it. You know, but I didn't, I didn't bother.

Oh, the second time I started to make recordings for myself was in 2003. No, maybe 2002. Yeah.

2002. 2003. Yeah.

And probably, in fact, yeah, I think it was 2000, late 2002. I made some, I started making recordings, relaxation ones for me to listen to. And in 2003, I started to try and try to help myself with the stress and stuff.

Very weird. It was just weird listening to myself. I mean, you know, making the recording and then listening to myself.

And I remember the first, when I first started, yeah, so that I guess the seed was kind of really grown then because it wasn't long after that really was it? I mean, 2006 is when I really started properly doing the, the, you know, the recordings. But 2004 is when I launched the free pain relief service in the town that I was living. And I had a website called helpwithpain.co.uk or something.

So I built that by hand, built the whole thing. I got no interest. People visited.

And I just didn't get any, any interest. You know, no one sort of contacted me. And then in, yeah, 2006, I think by 2005, I kind of just stopped putting any energy into it.

And in 2006, I relaunched the whole thing. But this time I had freepainrelief.co.uk or .com. And also my website, jasonnewland.com, which is where I had the recordings. Put on the videos and stuff embedded in there.

But the free pain relief was the website I really sort of put most attention to at the beginning of 2006. I got a new telephone number specifically for the free service, helping people with pain. And I started getting people calling me.

I delivered thousands and thousands of leaflets through people's doors, put like little posters in the shop windows and post offices and stuff like that. As well as having the online website and promoting that, getting that high up in the search engines and doing whatever was necessary to do that. And that really went well.

Really, really went well. But it was a free service, so there's no money coming in. So it's not like I could, I had a full time job as well.

So, in fact, wait a minute. No, yeah, I did. I had a full time job.

And then I went part time in, I think, September 2006. So I increased my volunteering. So I did more volunteering at the rehab, alcohol and drug rehab places, two different places.

So that was that was good. And then I could also do more, you know, visiting people and stuff. Because how it worked is to start with, I tell you what was weird to start with, right.

I was all excited. And I thought, you know, I'm gonna do because I'm going to do this free payment service. Got 50,000 postcards printed, might be more, but I think there's 50,000 or something.

And that was a big, big commitment. And then I decided to really put everything into it. Really, really give everything.

I was delivering leaflets during my lunch break. I was delivering leaflets after work, and during, you know, the weekends, as well as working on the website in the evenings. So I was putting a lot of energy into it.

But the first people I actually got was a friend, I got a friend, and she called my bluff. Because I'll be honest, even though I'd gone through the process, I was nervous of actually seeing anyone in person. Because other than practicing in 2004.

So I had the free pain relief service, but I ended up seeing people for relaxation, mainly friends and stuff. So I didn't, you know, I probably did about four or five sessions with people during that year. So not much.

So 2006, my friend decided to promote me, called my bluff, I didn't want to, I kind of, I liked the idea of wanting to do it. Might sound weird. I liked the idea.

I liked the idea of telling people, yeah, I've got a free pain relief service. I help people with pain. Because it felt lovely.

It felt nice. It felt, you know what, I've got a purpose on this planet, doing something really worthwhile. I'm not charging for it.

There's a hero, if you look inside your heart, you know, really, you know, it's really feeling quite positive about it. But at the same time, I didn't actually want to do anything. Because I was scared.

Scared of failure, you know, all that stuff. Anyway, my friend, Teresa, who I've known since 2002, she decided to call my bluff, but in a big way, no messing about. The first person she said, her friend had driving, she was becoming a driving instructor, and she had to have her test, and she'd already failed it.

And this was her last opportunity to take it. And she was nervous as anything. And, yeah, she wants, she so wanted to be self employed, driving instructor.

And she's got her own business and everything. Now she started her school, she's doing really good. And I saw her a few years back, about six, six, 10 years ago, like that nine years ago at a wedding.

Blimey, that's a long time. Anyway, she still got the same shirt. Blimey, I think I have.

I think I've still got the same shirt is hanging up the window now. Whoa. Yeah, so she called me up.

And she said, Yeah, my friend, she's got a driving exam to be a driving instructor on Saturday. Today. I said, All right.

She said, Well, she needs to come and see you. I said, Would you want to come see me for? I'm not driving instructor tester. And she said, You're funny.

No, I'm not. I work in insurance. And so she needs car insurance, I can help her.

And she said, No, she needs hypnosis. Honestly, my heart sunk. Oh, wow.

First of all, I was trying to do chronic pain relief. I didn't know the first thing about driving test things, you know? Well, it was about the it was about her stress and needing to feel relaxed and positive and confident and stuff. See, my friend brought around the house.

And we probably spent an hour and a half, maybe two hours. And my friend sat there and she she drifted off. And did lots and lots of different things.

Until my friend's friend, you know, the person I was doing it with, told me that she felt confident. And got a text from her telling me that she passed a test. And she's now officially a driving instructor.

So that was that was really good. So that was really early on 2006. Probably like February time, March time, something.

And then and I thought, Okay, that was nice. Now I want to go back to bed. And that's it.

Just leave me alone. Get another phone call from my friend again. Yeah, my, my boss's wife needs hypnosis review.

And I was gonna say no, I was like, No, I can't be bothered. And she said, Oh, but basically, she was going to have a major, major operation. Serious, serious stuff.

And she was going into hospital in I think four days time. And it was a similar kind of thing she needed to be. She was having my breasts, breasts removed, and then, you know, it's really, really, really serious.

And I spent about two and a half hours with her. And then she I've even still got the letter that she wrote me afterwards. Telling me how, how much our session helped her get through the whole thing.

And then so I couldn't turn it down once I was told what the situation was like, okay, brilliant. Not brilliant, but like, a little bit of pressure, thank you. But got through it and and then I'm thinking, well, I've got I've done this, you know, this should be everything else should be almost easy after this is, you know, I was only coming in this to do a few techniques, help people with pain relief, doing stress reduction, kind of, you know.

And then another friend said, Oh, I've got a friend that needs your help. So really? And she said, Yeah, she's having a lung transplant, and she needs a what? It was honestly, it was getting more and more serious every time I was getting a phone call. And it was from friends recommending me to their friends.

No pain relief, you know, it was all other things. So in the end, well, I went along and spent about I've talked about this before, about three and a half hours, four hours I was there. And I was determined to get the results that I wanted, or that she needed.

And I did. And it worked out really well for what she needed me for. And then I started getting a few, I got my first started getting my first clients for the pain relief, the free pain relief.

And the there's an old gentleman, elderly gentleman, he said he's, he was really nearly 8078, something like that, with severe arthritis, and he didn't live very far away from me. So I used to visit him in his house once a week, probably Saturday morning, actually. Yeah, probably would have been that.

And so I did. I saw him every week. And it really seemed to help him.

And we ended up doing a newspaper article about him and me in the local newspaper. And, you know, the journalist came around to some pictures, interviewed me interviewed him, watched, you know, a session being done. And it's very positive.

And I had quite a bit of feedback and people phoning me and stuff after that. So it's good, really good. Promotion, had an interview on a radio show as well.

So you know, it was that was nice. That was in the summer 2006. I saw a lady with a really bad back problem.

And, and I helped her and I helped her daughter with anxiety. She had a phobia. So I helped the door with that.

And then I had a phone call from another friend, or friend of a friend. But this was a friend's husband who had stomach cancer and he needed help with pain and stress reduction because he was in hospital having treatment. So I went there after work.

And that was an experience I'll never forget. And I did help really helped. And he told me and he is not he didn't.

He didn't come across as someone that would say it for the sake of it. You know, he wasn't in that position in his life to need to be pleasant. You know, he and also saw a couple of times afterwards.

And that was a weird one because the day after I was having lunch with a fellow Buddhist, and his Buddhist this person friend, friend, he was telling me because I was talking about my free, free hypnosis service for pain relief. And he was telling me with his wisdom that people don't appreciate things that are free. And I think I went into one a little bit saying, well, the man I saw yesterday, in the cancer ward seemed to appreciate what I did.

I didn't charge him anything. And my friend was a bit like, oh, because he was just regurgitating stuff that he'd heard from other people saying and instead of actually thinking for himself. And that's when I realized that actually charging people doesn't necessarily make them appreciate what it is that again, and let's face it, the most important things in life are free.

You know, in a sense of a life, a health, possibly, being able to do things. Love, love is free. Well, kind of depends where you are.

But so that was weird. And then, then, then, then, then, then I was looking for somewhere to work from. I say work was, you know, I started to get more and more people phoning me up, wanting me to help them with other things.

So, because I was a free service, I tried to turn people away. But at the same time, I didn't want to turn people away, you know, so I can't, the, the lady that passed the driving test exam to be a driving instructor, she started sending people to me. So she started her career.

So straight away, she started working as a driving instructor. So she had students who she was sending to me. So I was seeing them.

And then I saw a few other people for phobias and things like that. And then I saw this girl, actually, no, eventually, eventually, I rented a room on Saturday morning. Every Saturday, I paid 10 pound an hour for a room that I rented for three hours, I think on a Saturday.

And so I had three clients, it might be four hours, nine, nine to one. It might be four hours, I can't remember three or four hours. So I, I had to pay that money every week, regardless if I had anyone come.

So I had that booked every Saturday. And the, yeah, I, I had to charge people 10 pound to come and see me. But as I said to him, it was just for the room.

I have to pay 10 pound an hour, because it was in a therapy center. And so what I used to say to people is, if you can just give that to the person, when you get here, and you know, then that's it. So I had my own therapy room, you know, once a week, it meant that I was no longer traveling to see people apart from I must have seen yeah, yeah, in the afternoon, Saturday afternoon, I guess I must have seen or maybe evening time or something.

The elderly man. But then he moves away and he moved to it's very hard to get to where we lived quite distance. But yeah, so I'd buy every, every week, or Saturday mornings.

So that was quite nice. I like that. Also, I was doing more volunteering as well.

So I had quite busy, quite busy time, really. Yeah, I think I might have even used some of the recordings that I had with private clients, the relaxation, I might have recorded some of those and uploaded those onto the website. Not sure, I might have done.

It is possible. Anything's possible, isn't it? Not anything, but anything may be possible, depending on whether or not it's possible, I suppose. I don't know.

You know what I mean? Maybe you don't know, you might do, you might do. So yeah. Wow.

All those years ago, I do sometimes think or wonder if because I stopped, I wound down the free pain relief stuff in, did I? I can't remember when, I think it might have been. I'm not sure. All I know is I remember I increased the voluntary work, working with the rehab center for drug and rehab and the alcohol charity.

I was doing probably two group recordings or two group sessions at each charity weekly. In fact, I'm sure I was doing five sessions at one point, spread between the two of them, but at least four. And I also did a bit of voluntary just sort of helping out on a reception as well, because I had a bit of time.

And that was during my, yeah, I finished the job because they, the insurance job, they said, we have to go back full time or leave. And I decided to leave because I didn't want to go back full time because I'd made a life for myself. I was working part time.

I lived in cheap accommodation. I was living a cheap life. And I was doing lots of voluntary work, helping people using hypnosis at the website running, doing the recordings online, everything was going really, really good.

I didn't want to give that up. And, you know, I've been going since 2006, January, by the summer 2007, things had really, really gone well. So I gave that job up and then decided to apply for college to go to university to become a counsellor for three years.

And that's what I did. And that's what happened. Yeah, wow.

That's a little stroll down the memory lane. So I'm going to go. Thank you for listening.

Remember to be kind to yourself because you deserve to be happy. Lots of love. Bye.