#324 Let me bore you to sleep - Jason Newland (6th February 2020)

Hello, welcome to jasonnewland.com. My name is Jason Newland. This is Let me bore you to sleep. Only listen to this when you can safely close your eyes.

Please subscribe to this podcast so that you can be notified of the latest release. Although I do generally seem to be making daily recordings of this Let me bore you to sleep. Now, I know that most of you, like the thing that you probably, those that listen regularly, the thing you look forward to most of all is you want to hear about the stats.

You want to hear the latest, the latest stats. So I will tell you it briefly. It'll be a brief thing for those that have never listened before.

And it's the, this is a recording and I just talk about boring stuff, talk about my life, maybe focus on a subject, perhaps go online and look some stuff up. You know, it's all different kinds of things, really. One, if I said if you haven't listened before, one of the most popular parts of this, these podcasts, the most popular podcasts I've ever made, really, are the stats ones where I talk about statistics.

You know, how many downloads I've had. So popular. It's phenomenal.

And the other podcast, some of the other most popular ones are the ones where I brag about how popular various podcasts are. And there was one where I lisped a lot and whistled while I was speaking. And that was one of the, that was, honestly, it was like a viral, almost viral.

It was so popular. So yeah, that's kind of the kind of stuff that people like to hear about. So what I'll do, I'll do a brief, I'll do a brief update.

And this is genuine, it's a genuine update, because I'm quite pleased. I've got over 100,000 now downloads on this podcast. Because my podcast host, Spreaker, has now updated the stats.

And they've done it differently now. So it's now all correct, apparently. And so I've got over 800,000 altogether.

I've got 100,000 and 103,000, 102,000 on this podcast. So thank you, everyone, for being part of this. I wanted to reach 100,000.

I knew it feel nice. And this morning, or yesterday, when I sort of had a look, and they'd updated it. And so pod, I mean, basically downloads a pod, yeah, plays on their streams, downloads, whatever.

So I'm over 100,000 on this podcast, which is brilliant. I've got over 100,000 on some of the others as well. And the other really good thing that I was pretty impressed with is the Relaxation Hypnosis for Stress, Anxiety and Panic Attacks.

That podcast had 1000 downloads the day before yesterday. And 950 or whatever yesterday. So it's really good.

It's the most it's ever had in one day. It was 1000 just in one day. So I'm really pleased with that.

So thank you again, everyone that's listening to the various different podcasts that I do. Also have Deep Sleep Whisper Hypnosis, Sleep Hypnosis Weekly, and a couple of others that are basically where all my sleep stuff is kept. And about another 34 podcasts that are lots of different things.

But you can find that on Spreaker, or on my website, when my website is up and running again. Because I'm just waiting for it to connect now. And since yesterday, I've made a few more changes.

I have just gone back to the original podcast, the one that I had a couple of days ago. Because a couple of reasons, but I was really had difficulty connecting the pod bean to my domain name. And I wasn't hugely impressed with the way it was.

So I've gone back to using Shopify again. So I've updated everything, added all the new recordings on. It's all updated.

I've added everything onto Facebook again. And Twitter and YouTube and stuff. But I'm just waiting for the internet to connect itself, in a sense for the jasonnewland.com to actually connect, which I'm sure will do.

Just sometimes it takes an hour or so. So yeah, so that's it. That's all the updates.

Wanted to say thank you to... I want to say thank you to someone. Give me two seconds. No, that's not it.

I want to say thank you to Mrs. Nisbet for sending me a £10 PayPal gift. Thank you. It says, thank you for helping me sleep.

Also going to try out other podcasts to keep going. Well, thank you very much. I very much appreciate that.

And while I'm here, I'm going to put my phone on do not disturb. Otherwise I might get a phone call, which will ruin the recording. Ruin, I tell you, ruin.

Oh, and also for those that haven't listened before, the podcasts where I yawn, they're amongst the top, top ones. There's a whole group of people around the world that love listening to my yawns. It's pretty fantastic.

Is there anything else? Anything else I haven't covered? So you know what I thought I would do today? I've got me a little fire thing, fire tab open. I was going to look into something, but I'm not going to. What I'm going to do is I want to talk about websites that I've had in the past.

So I won't be talking about statistics or anything, but I'll tell you about my website history. And, uh, so you can kind of get a, you know, get an idea because I've had lots and lots and lots and lots of websites, lots and lots and lots. So let's go back to, I think it was 2000, late 99, 2000.

I think it was 1999 or maybe 1998 that I got my first computer. I used to have a word processor before that, which I used to write on, but then I got a computer and it cost me about a thousand pound and I paid it off monthly for forever. Took ages to pay off and it was, uh, you know, got it off the catalog.

So my cousin bought it and I sort of paid her monthly and I was paying for it for, it just probably a couple of years to pay it off. And a thousand pounds, a lot of money. I mean, for now you'd, you can get a, I don't know, what is it like an Apple Mac for a thousand pound now, but then computers are very expensive.

And this was one, you know, what, what are those ones? They all seemed to have the same colour and it was sort of yellowy, dirty yellow kind of thing, you know, and had this screen, heavy, heavy, heavy monitor, they used to call it, didn't they? With a little round bit at the bottom where it stood on. And then there'd be the keyboard, which would be plugged into the back of the computer screen. No, no, it wouldn't.

Getting that wrong. Then it'd be the computer, the hard drive with the disc, disc drive thing, which was a little tower. And that would be connected to the monitor.

And then the keyboard would be connected to the computer, the hard drive thing. And then the mouse, the little mousy thing would also be connected to the computer drive thing. And the way they were connected is, this is for people that have never used them, because there's going to be some people may never have used a computer or maybe never have used the old style computers.

For example, there might be people listen to this who are sort of 18, 19, 20, what year is it now? 2000, 2010, 2020. Wow, yeah. So there's people that could be 20 even, and never have used like a computer, always used laptops, and then tablets and phones.

So they had these connections, you'd plug it in and there'd be these little pins either side of it, which you had to like screw in. Very kind of a weird, weird kind of connection, the way it was. But it wasn't weird then.

It was very cumbersome. Very cumbersome. Not a word I get to use very often.

And I had it in this little, I had this little room I was living in. And the computer took up about a quarter of the room. And when I first got it, I thought, oh, cool.

And then I realized there was nothing to do with it. I mean, I could play games on it, but I didn't have any internet. I didn't even know about the internet, really, at that time.

So I had, so I had this in 1998. I only really discovered the internet in 99. That's when it kind of caught my eye.

Well, that's probably not true. Probably 98. But then it became a bit better in 99.

So I had this computer and I didn't touch it. I just had it there. I'm sure at some point I left it in the box, because I didn't have anything to do with it.

To do with it. To do with it. To do with it.

So I thought, because I kind of suppose, initially, I was going to use it to write stuff. And I had this idea quite a lot to learn how to do animation. Well, that idea didn't go anywhere.

And then I thought, oh, I could make a computer version of a brain. That didn't go anywhere either. I did try though.

And then I thought, once I kind of got in, I think it wasn't that I didn't know about the internet. I kind of, I just wasn't interested. You know, I'd lived my whole life without it.

And it wasn't something that nobody depended on it back then. I don't think anybody, you know, I think it was, it was a novelty. I suppose some people depended on it, you know, sort of communication wise, maybe colleges and the government and stuff, you know, sending messages to each other.

But the general public didn't seem to really be that bothered. And I think the consensus was, it was a bit rubbish really, when it first started, because it was so slow. So, so slow.

A picture could sometimes take like five minutes to upload or download, whatever you call it. So slow. You can literally hear the computer going, I just tried to, trying to, you know, sort of get that picture up on the screen.

And it ruined my love life really. And then these floppy disks, talking about love life, these floppy disks, which you could put in. And I think they had CD players, I think this one had a CD player in it, and a floppy disk.

So put the floppy disk in and you could do stuff on there and save stuff. And I just, you know, it didn't really interest me, because there was nothing to do. I couldn't, you know, just, I didn't bother.

And then, and then, and then, I went around my cousins, my little cousins, he's, he was probably about 18 at the time, 17, something like that. Might have been younger, I don't know. But he was probably like, around 18-ish.

And we used to record music together. And he said, oh, look at this. And he'd, him and his dad started building websites.

And I thought, ah, so using the internet, didn't interest me. But creating the internet, had a little spark in me, creating something, not just being, not being an audience member, but not an entertainer, but you know what I mean, doing something, not just being, I didn't want to be passive. I wanted to be involved in it.

There's nothing wrong with being passive. I spent a lot of time being passive. But at that time, there wasn't much on the internet that I was interested in.

There was no YouTube, there was no Facebook, there was, there was no, none of the, you know, there was, I can't even remember much of what there was. There used to be quite good for, I don't know, used to be, used to be like directories of stuff. And I think it was used for file sharing and stuff like that.

But, but for some reason, when I, and my cousin, he was basically turning a blank page, typing something into it and then pressing click and turn and then looking at it on a different page, using a different browser, look, basically doing it on Word or no, no, notepad. So he was typing some, some words, some code into notepad and then looking at it through Internet Explorer and there'd be a webpage. It built a webpage and there was nothing on there to start with.

It was just a webpage, maybe with hello and maybe added a picture or some graphics. And I was hooked. I was like, wow, wowsers.

And this kind of coincided with me, what is it? 2000. That's a good boy, Andre, on the paper, please, mate. You're a good boy.

You're a clever boy. Yes, you are. You went to the toilet.

It's Andre, by the way. If you've not listened before, Andre is my lion. I have him.

He did one on the, on the carpet earlier. He just looked at me, that's so, it's like, yeah, but I put all that fresh paper down for you yesterday. Loads of, or was it earlier today? Loads of paper.

Yeah. So got such an attitude. So I kind of got this bug, like, oh, I wonder what I can do.

Wonder what kind of webpages I could make. So I really got into it. Really, really got into it.

And when I say really got into it, I'm talking 16 hours a day, every day. And I didn't realise, but I think I was going through a bit of a manic stage. Because, you know, back then, I was not on any medication.

But I was going to bed early hours of the morning, waking up early hours of the morning. You know, perhaps getting four or five hours sleep sometimes. And I'd be on it.

I'd be just basically just working on the webpages all day, every day. And absolutely loved it. Absolutely loved it.

And it was basic coding, HTM. Then they turned, they called it HTML. But it's very basic web design.

So I didn't learn any like really, really complicated stuff. But I bought a bunch of books. And this is how I learned how to build a page.

See, there's ways. If you read a book, or if you search something, you can find out a shortcut, how to do something. I didn't want the shortcut.

So there's a thing on a page that we all use called a hyperlink. It's basically you click on something and it takes you somewhere else. That's the internet.

Without that, the internet wouldn't be anything. So, you know, you click on something, it takes you to another page or whatever. I wanted to learn how to make a hyperlink.

And all I had to do was look into my book and it would have told me. But I didn't want to do it that way. So what I did, I found a webpage online.

And by this time, I had my own internet. I sort of got it from my bedroom. So I found a page online.

I went to the code, the source code, which is, you know, the computer, the webpage code, which makes the page. And I copied that, put it onto my own notepad on my computer, because I could make webpages without being online. And I started dissecting the page.

And every time something didn't work, I put it back and I dissect it a bit more. So eventually I'd be trimming off our pictures, be trimming off some of the text to the point where I figured out how to make a hyperlink. And it took me probably about two or three days, maybe less, maybe, you know, I'm not sure.

It took me a long time. Eventually I figured out how to make a hyperlink. I was so pleased with myself because I'd done it my own way.

I figured it out my own way. And instead of just looking into the book from a time perspective, from, you know, it would have been better to just read the book, really. But I wanted to learn and by doing that, I didn't just learn about the hyperlink.

I learned about the bold, how to make, you know, text bold, how to, you know, underline text, how to indent text, how to put in titles, how to other things like add a picture with a link. As you click on a picture, the link goes, how to add various kind of different jingles and jangles to the website, basically, you know, like flashing, flashing images. Because back then there were websites that would just overload.

They'd have all these, I know it's hard because you're not, you won't see it now. But in the old days, back like 20 odd years ago, a lot of people were making websites, possibly millions, I suppose, but there's a lot of people at home making websites. And so many of them would have writing flashing across the screen, welcome to, and it's that kind of stuff, welcome to this website.

And there'd be, I don't know, like a little, a little peak, like walking across the screen and, and little images like turning around and spiraling and things like a Christmas tree, you know, it's very, it's a lot of fun to put it together and see it, where it was back then. And so I kind of, I had no formal training at all, but I learned how to build a basic website. And I'm being honest when I say basic, because it was very basic, but it was good enough for what I needed it to be.

And my very, very, very first website, it's a main name that I ever got. And here's something like you're ready for this. I got it from a company, a hosting company.

And I still use that hosting company today. You believe it. So my jasonnewland.com and every, not every, but most of my domain names have been with the same company, the same website hosting domain hoster, or domain provider, whatever you want to call it, right from the very start.

And that was the one that my uncle was using. So I just use his, I just said, okay, I'll call him up and use them. I will not call him up, but I'll, you know, go online and set one up.

And I'm still using them. And that was what 1999 or probably 2000 actually. So probably 2000, I've got that domain name.

The first one called tidysearch.com. I think it might have been .co.uk, I think it was .com, tidysearch. And this, oh, so happy. But it was, it wasn't simple, like now it's really simple.

Well, it should be, though not every place makes it simple. So I've been with this place for 20 years. And so tidysearch.com, the idea was to have a website, which was a search engine.

There was more of a directory, because I wasn't hugely impressed with Google. Or I don't know, I think Google was around, but there was others. There was a lot of search engines at the time, like Yahoo.

Is it duck something? Ask Jeeves, I think might have been around back then. And I want to search this. Sorry, I need to search.

Hope you don't mind, but it's, my memory's not giving me all the information, but the internet will. I'm just going to put original. Why can't I just ask it out loud? Original search engines.

So, wow, here's the first search engine invented was called Archie, created in 1990 by Alan M. Taj, a brilliant student at McGill University in Montreal. The original intent of the name was Archives, but it was shortened to Archie. This was before the creation of the World Wide Web and was a search engine for FTP sites.

Oh, I wanted to... History search engines. I want to find out what the, because there was a bunch of search engines. Old search engine.

Lycos. Lycos is an old search engine, which has a good reputation in the search industry. Still is also a popular search engine founded back in 1995.

I've never used it. Its key area serves as email, web hosting, social networking, and entertainment websites. Actually, the best thing to do really will be to look in images, because then they'll all come up, won't they? Come on, go backwards.

That's it. Good, good, good, good. Images.

Search. Oh, maybe not. Google.

Oh, there is a picture for loads. Okay. Google, ask.com, Yahoo, MSN, Netscape, Overture, AOL, AltaVista, Lycos, I1, DMOZ, Tioma, LookSmart, AllTheWeb.

I used to use AllTheWeb. I wonder if it's... And Inktomi, Windows Live. And... Oh, there's more here.

No. Let's have a look. I'm gonna... It's gonna bug me if I don't do it.

So, old search engines. Let's have a look. TileLycos, AltaVista, WebCrawler.

WebCrawler. Do you remember WebCrawler? Wow. Oh, there's another one here.

Excite. Do you remember Excite? Dogpile. I used to use Dogpile.

Because some of these search engines were quite good because it'd be a search engine and a directory. So you could post in what you were looking for, but also you could search manually by just clicking on a section like in a... I suppose in a kind of yellow pages sort of situation. Bing.

That's a new one, isn't it? I don't understand why Bing exists. DuckDuckGo. Didn't I say there was a DuckDuck? A Duck search engine.

DuckDuckGo. AskJeeves. Wow.

So that's not... Is it still around? I honestly don't know. Genuinely do not know. PIPL.

Let's have a look. There's another one. Oh, yes.

Okay. WiseNut. FindWhat.

LookSmart. MSN. Fast.

I think it is there. Netscape. AOL Search.

Go. About. I remember that, I think.

Lula. Oh, God. It's got a list here.

Old browsers. Internet Explorer. The World.

I don't know. I've never heard of that one before. Opera.

Safari. Mozilla Firefox. Netscape.

Tencent Traveler. Maxthon. I've never heard of these.

And Chrome. Wow. You know what I want to know? TidySearch.com. Nope.

No one's using that. Go.UK. Sorry. Can't believe this.

Okay. I thought TidySearch was a really good name for a search engine. Well, that wasn't really a search engine.

It was a directory. Because for me, what I found, and I still find it today with search engines, is they're not always great as far as there's... I suppose, in a way, what do they call people? Yeah. Google is the biggest online hoarder.

Google is the biggest online hoarder because it just saves loads of pointless stuff that's not valid anymore. Millions of businesses that don't exist anymore are still on Google. Millions of web pages that don't exist, billions probably, that don't exist anymore are still indexed on Google.

So, it's a shame we don't have a little bit of a clean up and don't get rid of stuff that's not on there anymore. And they do tend to get rid of the actual website, like the first home page of the website. But all the other pages are seen to index and keep on there.

I didn't know why. So, yeah, anyway, I built this website called Tidy Search and it was an index. And I started off focusing on hypnosis or hypnotists, hypnotherapists around the country.

And then I extended it to acupuncturists, aromatherapists, and, you know, I put in lots of information. And I drew this from... because my library actually had all the directories for the whole country. The telephone don't like the yellow pages of all the businesses for the whole country.

So, loads of them there was. So, what I did is I went in and I photocopied each section from each book. So, I go in, I did the hypnotherapist first, I found there was about 5,000 hypnotherapists in the country at the time listed in yellow pages.

And then I did the same for aromatherapists and acupuncturists and reflexologists, whatever. I'll probably start with the A's actually. And accountants, that usually comes up there.

So, I started doing that and putting it together. Because what I thought, at least then it would be up to date and maybe I could ask people to contribute or pay a pound a year or something to be listed. Once it was up and running, it was getting, you know, people visiting.

I never really went anywhere. Because, I mean, there was a point when I started thinking, actually, I can do this and it could be a charity. That's when I decided I wanted it to be a charity.

So, I could ask for companies to give money to be in the directory, the online directory. And at the time, I don't think anybody else was doing it. They had directories, but it was very much internet directories rather than real life companies organized.

Because I think it was, I might be wrong, to be fair, I probably am wrong. Yelp, yellow pages, yelp.com, that might well have already been running, up and running by then. I'm not 100% sure.

But there is lots of them now. And so I did, I might have just copied them. Yeah, I hope, I can't remember.

Such a long time ago. And as I put this together, I now decided, I want to go, I don't get motivated by money. I wish I did.

I really wish I did. But I get motivated by helping people. And because this website wasn't really going to help people, other than to find what they wanted, I thought if I could raise money from the website, and give it to a cancer charity, or maybe Great Ormond Street Children's Hospital, or something like that.

And then I contacted a professional web designer and told him my plans. And he seemed really excited about it. He said, yeah, I can help you get that up and running.

And he said, come in next Tuesday. And I thought, wow. He said, yeah, we're, we're a charity ourselves, government funded, and we can help you to get that started, and get you help, you know, to make it professional and get it all.

We've got professional web designers here. And I thought, wow, I was really excited. And then the, I went there, and the man was not there.

The man that I was supposed to be seeing. But this bloke, this young lad, probably about 25 or something, he said, no, I'm, I'm, I'm looking after you. I said, okay.

And he said, do you want to show me what you want to be done? And I said, yeah, well, the idea is this. I've already started it. I've already, you know, I showed him the website that was already online.

Got domain for it and all that. And he said, oh, yeah, okay, we could do that. And he said, yeah, that's going to cost probably about 3,000 pounds, something like that, he said.

I said, uh? He said, yeah. I said, why? He said, we're not doing it for free, are we? I said, no, the man said that you'd do it for free, because it's going to be a charity. And he said, no, it doesn't work like that.

We raise money for our charity by doing, by helping other people and charging them. That's what this charity is. And he said it was, it was a charity helping people that have got difficulties and teach them skills and know things like computer design and web design.

And that's how they made their money and financed themselves, by charging people like me. I said, but no, no, that's, that's not how it works. He said, that is how it works.

He didn't say it like that. And so I left. And I thought, bleh.

And I just, I was quite disappointed with that, because I really thought, oh, how amazing. Because I put so much work into it, and it worked. You know, the website worked really easily.

Everything was really precise. It wasn't like glamorous to look at, but it was a nice functioning website. Quick, because it was all text, no images, just text.

And I thought maybe put some adverts on there as well, you know, or something like that. But it was, I was really pleased with it. All it needed was a lot of work.

You know, lots and lots and lots of work, inputting the information into the computer, into the website. Now, there is ways of doing that with databases, but I don't, I actually bought a database program, but I couldn't work out how to use it. Well, I didn't put any energy into working out how to use it, but that was in 2005.

And that was a waste of money. I bought this data, honestly, it was a data program. It cost about £180.

I never used it. But I had a friend I lived with, and he knew how to do that stuff. So I was, I suppose I was kind of dependent on him to help me, because I had my website for the hypnosis and stuff.

But anyway, yeah, he didn't, because he was busy drinking alcohol. So he never got around to it. But he was, he was a whiz, complete whiz with, well, drinking really.

Anyway, so nothing came from that. But I kept hold of the domain for a long, quite a long time. And then 2000, I had a few, even me and my cousin, we put together a business plan, and we were going to have a website aimed at health and fitness.

And we put it together, we spent all night doing the finishing touches to this website. We had an interview with the bank the next day. And I remember that night, because we were just up, possibly drinking, or I don't, I can't remember, listening to, it was, I don't know, sort of dance music.

And so it was really, really good night. And he had a laptop, I had a laptop, and we were just both working. They were both his laptops, to be fair, but we're both working on them.

And just putting everything together, and then just like, sticking them together at the end, to make a functional website. So what we did then is we went to the meeting to the bank, and he said, Oh, it seems like quite a good idea. But it needs more work, it needs more planning needs more, you know, we can't give you any money to do this, because it's not, it's not profitable idea at this point.

So we both left and we didn't do anything else after that. I don't mean we didn't do anything else. I mean, we both lived our lives.

But just walk outside and just stood there for the next 20 years. He, you know, it didn't, it didn't affect our, our friendship, me and him. But we just didn't, I think we'd had enough of it.

I don't know, I had the expectation, I think maybe he did that the bank manager was going to say, yeah, this is really good. And then we can, and they'd finance us being able to focus full time on it, and get it done. So we didn't have to go to work and we would be working with me doing that.

But he was a whiz kid. Anyway, he's he was absolutely brilliant at music and on the computer as well. There's nothing he couldn't do, he could play loads of different instruments.

You know, he's like amazing. But it must run in the family. He's a creative genius.

The I'll tell you what does run in the family, but I won't tell you. Little willies. No, I won't.

So then in 2001, I was, that was when we did that. It's going to the bank. So the internet thing lasted until the end of 2001, or till the summer 2001.

And then I was forced to get a job in a call center by the unemployment office, good government thing. So that's what I did. And the internet, as far as building anything, kind of comes came to an end.

And I didn't have the energy when I got home to be doing anything. I just wanted to watch telly and go to bed basically, and then get up and go do all over again. And then I moved in September 2001, because my nan broke her hip.

And I went wants to be closer to to her, because I was living in London at this time, she was in a little town, quite a long way away. So I moved closer to where she was. And which in some ways, I wish I hadn't.

But in some ways, I'm glad I did. I'm glad I was closer to her. And I've got to see a lot more of her.

But at the same time, I think I might have been better off staying in London. But it's hard to know, isn't it? Who knows where I would be if I'd stayed in London? I might not. I wouldn't be here doing this right now.

I like to think that whatever I do, I'd end up doing this kind of stuff. But there's no way of knowing, is there? So anyway, for the first for 2001, I was working in another call centre in insurance. 2000, from September in 2002, 2003.

And I think at I had no internet the whole time. No internet. So I went from being absolutely obsessed with the internet to zero internet.

I couldn't get the internet connection to my room. Because it was blacklisted. So basically, the BT refused to put a phone socket in my room, point blank, because the previous person had lived there.

But it was something they just had a lot of problems with that building. Because lots of flat like little studio flats. And they refused point blank, no.

And there was no other way of doing it. Because the only way of getting broadband or internet really, because that broadband wasn't, it kind of was coming in, but it was still dial up at that time, was through BT. They had to, even if you got it through another company, which might have been available, then still had to be BT, who put the phone line in.

So I couldn't have the internet for nearly three years. And then at the beginning of 2004, I got the internet. Eventually, I moved into another flat, which was further up in the building.

And for some reason, they allowed me to have the internet. So they said, Yeah, I think there was a phone socket in that that that's why it must have been something like that. Anyway, they came in.

And I had the internet for the first time. And I had a laptop. Or did I have a No, I didn't have a laptop.

I had Yeah, computer. Yeah, another one with a what's it name, you know, monitor and keyboard and stuff. So I had that.

And I couldn't believe how much cheaper they were. I think I spent about 400 pound or 500 pound in 2004. I couldn't believe it.

So this is a situation. It's actually cheaper now. Actually, it might be 2003.

But you know, the computers are cheaper now than they were in 2000. And it's a much higher spec and top of the range kind of not the best one, but it was average. But anyway, I got that.

I played around and I started, you know, once I got the internet back on, I kind of got a little bit interested again. And then I kind of did get interested in the back, I was back on it again. So I thought, I'll build a website called helpwithpain.co.uk And that was for my free pain relief service in the local area.

So this is 2004, built this website. I got leaflets made, posted them through people's doors, put them up in windows, gave them out in the town, I don't know whatever else I did, promoted it online. Zero interest.

I'm talking zero. And it was a free service. I wasn't trying to charge anyone.

It was free. So helpwithpain.co.uk. I had that website for two years. And I think I might have had a couple of people contact me, asking me if I did sort of stuff to stop smoking.

And I said, no. I have a faint memory of putting an audio on there. You know, like a pain relief audio, but I might be making it up.

But I think I did. I'm sure I made a couple of podcasts. We didn't really have podcasts back then, I don't remember.

But I did a few bits that I actually just put onto the website for people to listen to. And didn't get any response at all. You know, I had people visiting it.

But you know, I built the thing from scratch, paying to host it. And it wasn't, you know, I had a few people visit, but it wasn't. I think I had probably, I don't know, like 30,000 or whatever visits, 40,000 visits during the time that I had it online.

But no interest. No one contacted me. So I started the free service in 2004, but nothing.

And then in 2006, I was still determined to offer free service. Still determined to do something with this hypnosis thing that I kind of got, that I've been studying and training for so long, since 98. So I thought, oh, you know, what should I do? And then I built another website.

This one was jasonnewland.com. I think I bought the domain name possibly in 2004. But I didn't use it until 2006. But again, I might be wrong there, but I have had it for a long, long, long, long time.

It might be in 2005, but I've had it for a good 14, 15 years, the domain name. But I just had it as a back burner kind of thinking, well, I might as well get it. It's myname.com. Once it's gone, it's gone.

So that, you know, so I did. That's what I, you know, I bought it, paid for it, and I've paid for every year since. And God, imagine how much money that's cost me.

Hundreds and hundreds of pounds just for that domain. So I had that. But for some reason in 2006, you know, because I started volunteering in a rehab, drug rehab center and an alcohol charity doing group relaxation sessions using hypnosis.

So it's two different charities. I also started the free chronic pain relief and started getting people wanting me to visit them in their home. And then eventually I rented a room out on a Saturday morning.

So people, they had to pay, but just for the cover of the room. So I didn't sort of charge money for the service. And then people started to ask me to do other things.

And, you know, other, you know, can you do it for driving lessons and examiners and stuff like that? And so I did a few little things. Over the next couple of years. So between 2006 and the end of 2007, that's what I spent my time doing.

And Jason, and because I started, I was doing the live sessions. People asked me, can you do, would quite like to hear your recordings in between the group sessions. So I ended up recording, putting them on CDs and then the CDs would run out really quickly.

So I started putting them onto my website and just giving people the website address, jasonnewland.com, visit that. And the, the live recordings will be on there from the previous session. And then I started, that's how it kind of started.

And I started putting them online, uh, onto podcasts, started uploading them onto MySpace. And, you know, it's gone from there to where we are now. And, but in the meantime, I've had lots of different websites, loads, probably another, probably a hundred website domains that I bought and, you know, free pain relief, free, free relaxation.com, free this, free that, free this.

And the only one I kind of stuck to is the jasonnewland.com. I can't ever let that one go. You know, even if I stopped everything, I would still, I've got that on automatic, you know, res, re, I don't know what's the right word, resubscribe or it automatically takes the money because I'm keeping that domain name forever and ever and ever. And, uh, also it's a good place you can always find me wherever, whether the YouTube channel shuts down or a podcast shuts down, the website's always there, usually in some format, constantly changing, changing the way it looks.

And I've done that so many times. I've changed the website hundreds of times and spent, I can't even calculate the amount of hours I've spent working on my website over the years. That is the different websites I've had under the banner of jasonnewland.com. I've used pretty much every website host there is available.

Some that are even not, are not allowed, they're not around anymore. And I've spent thousands and thousands and thousands of hours working on the websites. And sometimes you get to the point where I just never want to have to look at another laptop screen ever again.

It's like, no, no more. So that, that's, that's the story of the websites really. That's where I am now.

I've got this website and I don't know what year we're in now, what, 2020. It's still there, hopefully. Hopefully it's connected by now, but I quite like it.

But all the knowledge of building websites is pretty much gone. I can look at the source code of a webpage and find my way around, as it were, like, not always, but sometimes I can find my way kind of roughly around what's in the website. But it's a lot more difficult than it used to be because there's, you know, the technology is advanced phenomenally.

And I think that's, that's kind of, I can't think of anything else to say about my websites. That pretty much is it. I'm sure there's something else.

What else would there be? What else would there be about my websites? No, nothing. So I'm going to go. Thank you for listening.

Remember to be kind to yourself, because you deserve to be happy. And as we speak on the television, on mute, is Knight Rider. Yay.

Lots of love. Bye.