(Short Voice) #207 Let me bore you to sleep - Jason Newland (29th August 2019)

Hello and welcome to Let Me Bore You To Sleep. My name is Jason Newland. Please only listen to this when you can safely close your eyes.

And I'm going to give another attempt at reading a bit of the stuff out of my bird book in my last recording, which I think was yesterday. I don't think I got very far, which is not unusual for me. But I thought what I would do is go through some of the different birds and give you a visual description of them.

Before I do that, let's give you an update on today. I didn't do much. That's it really, I didn't do much.

What I'm in the process of doing is transcribing my recordings. And my intention is to transcribe all of them. Which is going to take a while, as I've got over a thousand recordings.

And growing by probably ten, ten plus a week. Yeah I probably do over ten recordings a week, maybe more. Sometimes more, sometimes fifteen.

So yeah probably, yeah probably on a busy, well not a busy week, but on a good week I'll do probably three a day. But normally I do at least two a day. Maybe the odd three, so it's about fifteen.

Between fifteen and twenty. So it's not just a case of transcribing the old recordings. I'm also going to be transcribing the newer ones eventually.

So I've transcribed, but why transcribe these two? It's two aspects to the process that I'm doing. I've found somewhere that I can transcribe the podcast into text. And it's not perfect, but it's pretty good though.

So once I've done that, and that takes a fair while to do, because it's done online. And then I use another website to actually listen to the recording. So I paste in the text that was transcribed automatically.

And then I edit it whilst listening to the recording. Which means, and I have it on slow. So I know that I don't talk particularly quickly.

However when it comes to editing and changing words and making new sentences, I need it to be a little bit slower. So it's probably about half the speed of how I'm talking now. Which means a one hour recording, which is about average for these, let me bore you to sleep sessions, would take about two hours each.

Plus another maybe 20 minutes to do the automatic transcribing. So it's a fairly laborious process. Yet I am determined to do it.

Because I intend to write some books. Based on the things that I've talked about. Maybe not so much these ones, because I do talk a lot of silly stuff.

So I'm not going to have a book that says, and then I turned left, and I walked past a lamppost which I've seen at least 300 times. Although I might, I'm thinking of doing a let me bore you to sleep book with stories that are just really, really boring. So I might take some ideas from over 200 recordings so far.

So there might be a few bits that I could take and use. Because, and I don't know why, but I seem to function more smoothly. Like with my brain thinking creatively when I'm talking, when I'm making a recording.

As opposed to sitting in front of a pad of blank paper, holding a pen. For some reason this process seems to be more flowy for me. And stuff just seems to come.

Because for some reason I never, never, ever run out of things to say. Which is not necessarily a superpower in normal life. But when it comes to talking for an hour about stuff, it seems to be a particular skill set which seems to be useful for this.

Thing that I'm doing. It's a functional skill. Which is, in other circumstances, probably dysfunctional.

Because I have found that when talking to another human, at some point during a conversation, they seem to wish to talk themselves. And I don't really like being interrupted when I'm in a flow. And I realised a long time ago that not many people want to just stand there and listen to me talking about myself.

For long periods of time. You know, it can... I'm not saying that I've ruined weddings. Although, I think it's... I don't know.

You know what they say, there's an old saying, isn't there? Talk about what you know about. I know about me. So I can't talk about other people because I don't know them.

I can gossip, but it's just... a lot of gossip is just made up boring stuff, isn't it? And the only people that gossip are people who are bored. So, and I'm... I don't get bored with myself very often because I'm so exciting. I'm such a... It's a never-ending... it's like... Do you remember when you were a kid, or if you've got children, you might go to these places.

And they're like these fun activity centres. And there's a ball pit with lots of coloured balls and you can jump into it and probably catch all kinds of weird illnesses from other kids. But that's what I am.

I just... I'm kind of... It's always... or just the activity centre itself. There's always something to play with. There's always... you know, if I go on the bars, the monkey bars, or climb up the net.

Or, you know, it's always... Something that kind of interests me. Within my brain. I had a friend years ago that said to me that... I just seem to amuse myself more than anyone else could.

I find my own thoughts more interesting than other people's. What other people say. Which is not my fault.

It's not always the case. Oh, yeah, I was watching on telly. Chappelle.

Something Chappelle. He's a stand-up comedian. And he's got a new stand-up show on Netflix.

Very funny. Very funny. So... So that's the secret with being the most boring person on the planet.

Is talking about stuff that I find really interesting. Which everyone else finds boring. Or maybe my description of it might be... Considered mildly... Mildly and sedentary.

Is that a word? Sedentary. Kind of sedating. I'm like a little sleeping tablet.

But I'm not. The good thing with me is you don't need to take drugs. Just listen to me.

No prescription needed. I can just soften... Soften your mind. So it's ready to just drift off to sleep.

And even for people that aren't listening to this to go to sleep. And it's just for a bit of company. That's nice as well.

I can just rabbit on about stuff. And I imagine... If I was kind of, you know... Getting paid to do this on a radio show. I'd probably have to come up with some kind of material.

And some more... Interesting conversations to talk about. But then it wouldn't be a boring to sleep session, would it? I'm guessing you could never have this on a radio. Because in case people listened to it whilst they were driving.

And you couldn't continuously keep saying... Please only listen when you can safely close your eyes. In between each sentence. So... Although I would quite like... To do a radio show.

Just to chill down. Not necessarily a talk show like where people phone in. Although I could do that.

I don't know if I could, I've not done it. But I'm sure I could. But... I don't know if I'd want to do a radio show where there was music.

Although I could quite like that. But I'd probably be listening to the music and thinking... But I want to talk. I've got to wait for three minutes before I can talk again.

What am I going to talk about in three minutes? And then I'll only be able to talk for two minutes and there'll be another song. So, you know, would I be able to fit everything in? Would it all fit into the gap that's available? That's the question. So... I'd quite like... Because my era... Or error... For music... Is pretty much like 80s and 90s.

In the sense of... I was 10 in 1980. So I became a bit more... Interested in music. A bit more... Aware of... The charts and, you know, stuff like that.

Although I was before that age. But I'm just giving 10 as an idea. Like a... A marker.

And then... The 90s, that started. And I was 20 in 1990. So during my 20s, again... You know, I was actually a DJ for four years in the 90s.

So I was... Very, you know, I was very aware of the music of the 90s. And I had jobs where the radio was playing all the time. But then... I was also very aware of the 60s.

And some of the 50s because... Of my dad being... Growing up in the 60s. And he liked to play... Other Beatles and... You know, the 60s songs. And even the 50s songs.

Because he was born in, what, about 1945 or 47. And... Yeah, 45, something like that. So he would have been... The late 50s, he'd have been 10 years old.

In 55, let's say. So he'd have been listening to... Rubble and... Whatever ones, Rock Around the Clock. And other such songs.

Which was the beginning, really, of the rock and roll. You know, before... Well, Elvis was 1957. But the Beatles was, what, 1962 or 1963.

So... Yeah... So I was kind of aware of those songs. Then the 70s. I was born in 1970.

I have a recollection of some of the songs... That I listened to when I was proper little. And... I became a bit more aware of the songs in the late 70s. And, yeah, sort of like maybe 77 onwards.

He had the Grease album. And... ABBA and... The Bee Gees. I think Boney M. So, yeah, I kind of got to know the 70s as well.

And there's been times... Probably after 2001. When... I hadn't listened to the radio or listened to any new songs for months at a time. Due to just working all the time and... Not listening to the radio.

And then I go through periods when I do watch... Like a video channel where there's lots of music on there and I... I get really up to date with what's going on. What songs are popular and everything. But I'm not as up to date as I used to be.

I do try and keep up to date because I have this... This little fear. This little fear that one day I'm going to say... Something as ridiculous as... There hasn't been a decent song... Released since 1999 or something like that. And I'd never want to be like that.

I've known people like that. There's always not a decent song since 1960s. Like, really? Nothing decent since the 80s? Really? I've heard some songs from the 80s that I forgot about.

I watched Top of the Pops from... I think it was 1987. And I watched it and there was some stuff on there that was really bad. I mean really, really, really bad.

And I seem to think of the 80s in a kind of... A nostalgic way. I think of some of the great songs like Duran Duran, Adam and the Ants... Madness... Madonna... Whitney Houston, Prince, Michael Jackson... Wham! The list is really, really long. And there were so many great songs that I remember.

But there were some really, really awful ones. Like really... The amount of attempts by some... Singers or bands to try and... Be like the Beastie Boys or run DMC... That really didn't... Didn't cut the mustard, is the description I would say. And listening back to them... And they were in the Top 40... And then they disappeared.

And... Yeah, it's kind of weird to hear... But then sometimes I'll watch the Top of the Pops... Because they show it quite often, different years and... Because it used to be on a music television programme... Which was on for about 30 years. And that's a long show. There wasn't even any breaks, it was on BBC One.

So... Occasionally I'll watch it and there'll be... A singer or an act that I'd forgotten about... With a song that I'd forgotten about... Which I used to absolutely love. Absolutely love. And it feels so good.

Just, it's a lovely experience. I think one of those songs was... What was it called? It starts off... He's a small town boy, living in a restless world... On and on and on and on... And... I used to love that song, but I forgot about it. And then it was in The Sopranos, in the... The last episode of The Sopranos... In 2000 and... I suppose 2004? Around that time.

Maybe 2005. When The Sopranos ended. And I fell in love with it again.

And I was just like, wow! How did I forget about this song? And I had a whole new emotional connection to it. Because it was connected to one of my favourite programmes of all time. Which was The Sopranos.

I loved that programme. And... It's... It's in Chicago, I think. Yeah, Chicago.

That's the band. And I was like, oh! So that was good. And then... When I was a DJ... I used to play songs from... Not so much in the 60s, because that used to upset my boss.

But from the 70s, 80s, 90s, 2000s. By 90s, because I'd finished... I wasn't doing it in the 2000s, but... I learnt, just by doing it... Doing it... Every single song... That was loved... By people that wanted to dance. So basically, any disco song... I got to learn which ones.

So it ranged from ABBA. So it had stuff from the 70s. I didn't really dip into the 60s very often.

And Shout by Lulu was fairly popular, but... But I think she did re-release that in the 80s, I think. The ABBA Dancing Queen. Come on, Eileen.

That was quite a good one to end on. I remember playing it once, and... There was this bit of a ruckus, and... This woman... There was like a table near the DJ booth. I think they were nurses, I don't know, that's not really relevant, but... I started playing this song, and she just stood up and ran out of the club.

She like picked up her purse, or her handbag, and her coat, and... Binoculars, for some reason she had binoculars. And she ran out, and I said, what's up with her? She said, it's called Eileen. Oh, okay.

Apparently she... Didn't enjoy that song. And... What other songs was there? Wham! Do-do-do-do-do. What was it? Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go.

And... So I wonder if that would have been so popular, if it had been called Wake Me Up Before You Go. But calling it Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go. Or was it called Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go? It might have just been called Wake Me Up.

I'm sure it was called Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go. So what other songs? I think Bee Gees. Some of that, like the... The... Because they kind of... Not so much invented disco, but they were... Kind of credited for the disco... Genre.

With Saturday Night Live. And... Dressing up in the... The stuff they dressed up in, and... John Travolta... Wearing his white suit. And... What came first? Was it Saturday Night Live, or was it Grease? Because both of them were huge... Films.

And both of them had... Like... Huge albums that came from it. Because I don't think Saturday Night Live was all just the Bee Gees. I'm sure other people sung on it as well.

But I don't think John Travolta sung on that. But he, of course, sung on the... Grease album. Because I remember... My brother, my older brother... Buying the Grease album.

And this was while we were still living in the house... That my nan and granddad ended up moving in. And there was... And my little brother was born in... Not in the house, but... He was born whilst living... Whilst we were living in the house. And my older brother... Not the oldest one, but the one... Just below.

He... Bought the Grease album. And it was... A double album. And I just remember it because he... He opened it up.

It might have even looked like... Three Sleeves, I don't remember. But... It had all these... Cartoons on it. Which I guess was the... At the beginning of the film.

I think it also had the lyrics... To the songs as well. And it was an actual album, you know... A final album because... CDs were not... Invented at that time. So yeah, when I was a DJ I had lots of... I kind of got a lot of knowledge in... Disco songs.

Like, you know, as far as... How to put it? I probably... At the time, I would have... Made a really good wedding DJ. But now, I'd have to update it and... Add, you know, it's 20 years worth of... Nearly 18 years worth of songs... That have been really popular... Over the years. That I'd need to add.

But things like Dancing Queen... As far as I'm aware would still be popular. But I don't know. I imagine the film Mamma Mia... Gave a big resurgence to that song.

But I don't think it ever needed any help because... It's almost like... People are born... Knowing it. It's almost like a hereditary thing. You hear the beginning of Dancing Queen... Do, do, do, do... Do, do, do, do, do... Do, do, do, do, do, do... And suddenly... Screams and people would run onto the floor... And start dancing.

And I'm not talking about people that were... What was it? This was like 1999... Let's say 2000. So 10 years before that would be what? 1990? 1980? So yeah, people that weren't even alive when the song was... Released... Were jumping onto the... Dance floor. They weren't always jumping, some people just walked... Onto the dance floor.

And it wasn't like a really low dance floor. People had to jump down from... A balcony or anything like that. That would be weird.

I suppose unless it was a swimming pool... And then all the water just got drained out and then you'd... Jump in. There used to be a place near where... The comedy club that I used to go to... And it was called... Aqua... The Aquarium, yeah. The Aquarium.

I could never get my head around this. I never went. And I probably would have really liked it, but I never went.

I just... Not being a fan of being around drunk people. Not drunk men really, I don't... Drunk women I quite like, but... When I was younger I put drunk men, just... Never really enjoyed it, and... I'm not really drunk anybody. I like sober people.

Sometimes. Anyway, so I didn't go, but this was a place where there was a pool... I think there was more than one swimming pool... And drunk people would get in there. And I just couldn't get my head around it.

Because... I always remember the adverts on television when I was very young saying... If you've just eaten... You need to leave it... A while before you go swimming. You shouldn't go swimming on a full stomach. And I was thinking, if someone's drinking and they're drunk... That's still a full stomach even if it's not food.

And... I think... If... If you're drunk, if you're not able to drive a car... You shouldn't be able to go swimming. You know, it kind of just... I suppose I've got this little self... Health and safety thing. It's always in my head.

Health and safety. Be careful everybody. Be careful.

Stop having fun. Be careful. But that's just me.

I never went. But... I might have really enjoyed it. I just... I just rarely ever got drunk in public.

I didn't... I don't know why. I just... I suppose I've spent quite a lot of time around drunk people. I've worked in bars and pubs and... Yeah, just... You know... Yeah, not really... I really found it that... I don't know, even when I did gigs... And I'd have... Sometimes I'd have people come and see me.

You know, come talk to me afterwards. And there'd be a man sometimes, quite often there'd be men. And they'd be talking to me and they'd be drunk and... I was like... Oh... What a shame.

I'm going to have to... I'm going to have to listen to him talking. Because you can't do... I can't do what I normally do where I just talk and talk and talk. Drunk people don't let you do that.

Because they want to talk. So I guess I'm kind of like a sober drunk. Wow, I never thought about that.

I'm like a sober drunk person. I want to dominate the conversation. But actually I'm sober.

Now that's a weird one. Anyway, I should... I should talk about birds, shouldn't I? Here's me talking about Abba and the Bee Gees and... Adam and the Ants and... I'll tell you one of my favourite songs. Two of my favourite songs.

Actually three of my favourite songs. At that time. Andre's just come in.

He was asleep for ages. And he's just wandering around. Oh, he's gone to sleep in the corner now.

Spice Up My... Is it Spice Up My Life or... Spice Up My Life, yeah, by the Spice Girls. I really like that song. It's really just like the... The way it was put together.

Such a good song. And then there was... There was... Girls Aloud. I forget what it was called but it was... Admittedly this wasn't while I was doing the disco but... It's so good.

Because Girls Aloud hadn't existed at that point. And it was the best, for me, the best song they produced. But one of the best songs.

For, you know, the year. It was such a good song. And they performed it on the X Factor.

Can you hear Andre in the background? He's in the kitchen. Playing with the plastic bags. I've just seen him run past me.

Basically he had his girlfriend in his mouth. Which is my old slipper. So he's either... He's going to go into the bedroom.

And be busy for the next hour. Or he's going to come in here. No pun intended.

And... Make noise in here. Hopefully he'll stay in the bedroom. So... Incidentally I just made a new Deep Sleep Whisper Hypnosis recording.

And... Andre was actually on the bed while I was doing it. And he was asleep all the way through. So that was good.

He just started to wake up as I came to finish. So, you know, because... Sometimes he'll just walk over the recorder. Or just start climbing all over me and stuff.

Which is nice, but... I'm kind of like trying to say to him, look, I'm working. Come back later on, please. So, yeah.

What's the other song? Oh, there's another song I really liked. He just had a really weird noise. A weird noise outside.

I think it was a cat. Or cats. It wasn't Andre, I know all of his sounds.

All the sounds that he makes. Well, I wonder what it was. The Bee Gees did a song.

And I think it was for whom the bell tolls. It might be that one, but there's another one that's really, really good. And I think... So I had the Bee Gees album when I was about... Nine, ten.

The best of the Bee Gees. And then here I am. Twenty-nine or thirty.

And they're still producing songs. And this is when they were all still around, all three of them. And I used to love the... The way, is it Barry? Beardy Barry.

Would... He had a different tone to his voice. But then his brother, I think it's Robin. Who's, I was going to say the slim one, but they're all very slim, weren't they? But he would be the one with... The glasses.

Not the one with the hat. But was that a hat? And there's one of them, I think, married Lulu. I think it was the one with the hat.

So it was Barry, Robin. And, I don't know, let's call Sam. Sammy.

I don't know, I forget his name. But they all had some really different tone to their voices. And... I like the songs where they sing individually.

And it's such a compliment to each other. They just... Even... I mean, think in the late 90s. They must have been about 90 themselves.

And it's like, wow. Just really enjoyed listening to them. I just, yeah.

I'm a big fan of the old Bee Gees. So... This is the first bird. It's called the Grey Heron.

And... How it works is, not how it works, but... Apparently it stands, it's got very long legs. And... It stands very still in the water. It's got a very long orange beak.

And it looks like it's got a ponytail. Which is... Probably quite an unusual feature for a bird. So I wonder, you know when people say it's a Red Heron? When they're saying that it's like a fake... Like a fake clue.

Or it's a false statement. Or, you know, it's trying to distract you from what is real. Why is it called a Red Heron? What people got against Herons? Red Heron.

Red Heron. But that's the thing, it's spelt H-E-R-O-N. That's a Heron, not a Heron.

Heron would be H-E-R-I-N, surely. Anyway, apparently they stand in the river. In the shallow bits.

And then they... Peck into the water to feed. It says that the voice has got a loud... Harsh, squawking... Croaking... Sound. And they normally nest in large treetops.

With others as well. And they lay four to five eggs at a time. Between January and May.

I wonder what a Red Heron is. That's a Grey Heron. It says they've got similar species as a Purple Heron.

So the next one... Hmm... The next one is a Sparrowhawk. Let me tell you about... It might not be in here. Let's have a look.

There's a bird... That was part of my... I'm just going through it. I think one of my favourite birds is the Robin. I don't know what it is about the Robin.

I think it might be... Because I'm just looking at it now. I'm not looking. It's not an actual Robin.

It's a picture. It's not even a photograph, I don't think. Oh, no, it is.

I think it's a little bit like... Pigeons. You know, you look at them and think, How on earth do they fly? They're so... Look at that belly. How can you fly with such a big belly? And... I just think they're so cute.

It's a little round. And I suppose... I can't... I... Yeah. I associate Robins with Christmas.

Because of Christmas cards and... A Robin... Surrounded by snow and stuff. But, of course, Robins are round all year. According to this... Well, we already know it's round-bodied.

Slim-tailed. Doesn't have a ponytail. But this is giving it a personality trait.

It's saying that it's shy. Well... It's a bit presumptuous, isn't it? It can't be that shy, otherwise they wouldn't... Reproduce, would they? There's got to be some confident Robins out there. Being able to sort of chat up the females and... Or to chat up the males.

If they were all shy... There'd be none... There'd be no hanky-panky at all, would there? And we'd never see another Robin ever in the world, ever again. So, to say that they're shy... Does seem a little bit like a generalisation. So... According to this, it's... It's adapted for following animals such as wild boar.

And taking small animals from the earth. I suppose like worms. So we don't have wild boar.

Not in my town, anyway. It says here, in the UK... It's adapted by following gardeners instead. And to become very tame.

So it nests... Ah, look, it says... Don't nest on leaves and grass in the bank of a bush. So they don't nest in trees. And they have 46 eggs.

Between April and August. And it says two broods. I don't know what that means.

Similar species, they've got Nightingale. A Red Start. And a Dunnock.

I've heard of a Nightingale, but none of the others. Beautiful little birds. I'm really a big fan of Robins.

I think it's the colouring. I think it's just the... And the little. The little and... They stand out because... I'm not being prejudiced.

But some of these look very similar. Or the same to me. Like the Wren.

The Dunnock. The Fieldfare. The Missile Thrust.

The Song Thrust. The Red Wing. Well, it's got a bit of red in it.

But it's still grey. You know, very grey. Like brown.

The Black Cap. The Chiffchaff. Now that's a brilliant name.

Chiffchaff. If I ever have a kid, I'm going to call him Chiffchaff. Chiffchaff.

Imagine. What's your name? Chiffchaff Newland. Brilliant.

I suppose I want to just call him Chiff. For sure. By sight, the Chiffchaff is almost impossible to distinguish from the Willow Warbler.

I can't believe I just said that sentence. Although it is slightly plumper. And there's a habit of dipping its tail downward.

So basically it's very similar to another bird. But you can tell it's different because it dips its tail differently. However, when it sings, it betrays its identity by repeating by repeating its name over and over again.

I don't understand that. Does it actually say Chiffchaff? It does, apparently. According to this, it says Chiffchaff, Chiffchaff, Chiffchuff, Chiff.

So that's the noise it makes. Chiffchaff, Chiffchaff. How brilliant.

Now this is a cute one. It's got big eyes. Pretty.

It's a pretty bird. And it looks like a girl. And that's... I don't know why.

It's just pretty. Some of the birds, it's not, you know, not doing it for me. But this one is cute.

Very beautiful. Beautiful face. Very pretty.

Literally, you should have a look. Chiffchaff. Beautiful little thing.

There's another one here which is very strange. Never, never seen one like this before. Called a Goldcrest.

And apparently it's Europe's smallest bird. So maybe it's not in the United Kingdom of England. I don't know.

It's little. It's very little. Doesn't say how little it is.

But it's proper little. Wow, so it says nesting a cup of cobwebs and moss slung from a branch. It has seven to eight eggs April to July.

Similar species to the Goldcrest are Firecrest, Willow... Willow Warbler and a Chiffchaff. So they're kind of similar birds. It's very round.

The top of his head looks like another stomach. And it looks like it's actually used its own poo to wash its hair. Because this yellow yellow stripe down the front of its head.

Either that or it's almost like it's saying you can park here on the road. So there's a long-tailed tit. So that's... This one's so cute.

And it does have a long tail. The tail is probably longer than its body. But it's cute, its little face.

Like the Goldcrest, bless it. It's not going to win a beauty contest. No offence.

It's... I kind of think I'm turning into a Goldcrest. Like gradually. But the long-tailed tit.

So beautiful little face. Really. It's quite big as well.

It's not big but it's got a very round body. Apparently they hang around with each other and have parties together in the summer. It has 8 to 12 eggs in April and June.

Wow. I only want to talk about the cute ones. Now I thought that all tits were pretty much the same.

I know that all tits are different but I figured they kind of have fairly similar I don't know shapes or attributes. But the long-tailed tit is completely different from the marsh tit. Which is very slim and long.

So this tit is quite long and yeah quite long. Tail quite a long tail but not long long. It's got yeah apparently it's quite distinctable by its pit-chew core.

So the song is like a rippling chip chip chip chip chip chip chip like that. But then the coal tit is almost like the marsh tit is turning into the great tit via the coal tit and the blue tit. Very strange.

The coal tit is fairly dark quite plumpy apparently lives in conifer trees and it's very little it's very very it doesn't weigh much apparently. Apparently it's active and fearless. And apparently the tits get together.

The tit family seem to get on quite well with each other. So it's not just I suppose they're kind of cousins of each other. I mean I get on with my cousins in the past year.

So they seem to hang out with each other. So the tits hang out together. The blue tit I would argue is the most famous tit out of all of them.

The reason I remember the blue tit is because we used to have a long time ago when I was younger a lot happened when I was younger we used to have milk bottles. They were made of glass. And this person we used to call them milk men of course that would be I wouldn't be able to say the word men or men after that but that's at the time it seemed to be predominantly male dominated occupation.

But I've not done a consensus of all the different people that had that particular job at that time. But anyway we had a man that delivered so he was the milk man and would come down, well I didn't although I might have done I think sometimes I might have been sent out to collect the milk from the doorstop or the doorstop the step on the door the front door and would have this little rack it would be like a white rack with I think probably four four square holes which you could put the milk bottles in so the empties would be put out at night and then the milk man would come and take the empties and put the new ones in and you'd see him carrying the empties in his fingers and sometimes he'd have five it actually looked like he had really big fingers made of glass so the blue tits used to eat the cream at the top of the milk so they'd peg through the tin foil and they'd nibble at the cream and drink it so that's how I remember the blue tits really because they'd yeah they basically sometimes it would you know it was supposed to be a rack of milk but it ended up being a rack of tits it's weird even at the time I thought is this hygienic should we really be drinking this afterwards but we did so it seemed to be ok but I had this memory of them being really cute and there is a picture and this is the one that I'm thinking of it's the less blue because it's got more of a rounded head the yellow and the so there's different blue tits the one here it's got quite a almost like a Mohican it's like a black and white face but the other one which is got a less blue one yeah yeah that's the one I think of then you've got the great tit so I never realised it was great tit I thought it was grey tit as in the colour everyone likes a great tit these are probably one of the most popular birds I think blue tits grey tits it's a different kind of bird, it just looks different it's slim, it looks taller longer tail and it's got some blue on it's wing in fact from the looks of it the whole of the wing might be blue when it's spread and the great tit is one of the most familiar garden, woodland birds in the UK so it's probably one of the most seen birds so the great, yeah great tit of Great Britain so I'm looking at what other birds there are but I don't think we should talk about all of them because we're getting to the end of the session there's quite a few, there's the rook there's the starling the brambling, the chaffinch the goldfinch that's a beautiful colouring brambling's quite cute as well I almost wish I was a bird bullfinch greenfinch maybe, quite nice there's quite a few I don't know which ones I like the most I think chaffinches are quite nice great spotted woodpecker wow that's quite cute as well I do like doves but the robin, I think the robin's my favourite anyway I'm going to bring this to an end thank you for listening and speak to you next time and remember to be kind and to yourself lots of love bye