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Hello, welcome to let me bore you to sleep. The podcast that is kind of boring. Yeah, kind of boring.
I don't know what else to say really. It's a boring podcast. It has it's been tried and tested for over four years.
And I only listen only listen when you can safely close your eyes. My name's Jason Newland. My website's jasonnewland.com or www.jasonnewland.com or www.jasonnewland.com. If that is easier.
Yeah, so today is the Friday the 6th of May 2022. Hello, it's nine minutes past 12 in the afternoon. And I am waiting for the gas boiler man or woman always been a man so far but could be a woman to come and check my boiler.
The annual the anal check the annual check. And so between 12 and five they said, so I have to stay in all day waiting for the buggers to turn up. I mean if they come early, you know, like now then technically I could go out for the afternoon.
If they turn up at three, well, that's kind of the afternoon gone really. By the time I get to town, it's going to be for everything closes at 530. And then it's a bit of a wait to get a bus back because now that only every hour.
So you're just moaning Jason you're just moaning about everything. Why do you keep moaning? I'm not just being honest. I'm just saying that's what's going on my friend.
That's what I meant. I met my friend. The word friend reminded me I met up with a friend and had lunch watch I didn't have lunch.
This was on the Monday bank holiday Monday. The day after Sunday. Well, yeah, we figured that no, but the day after I had a bit of a weird Sunday.
You'd have to listen back to previous podcasts to know what I'm referring to. I'm not going to tell you. It's a secret.
I said a bit of a weird, weird day on Sunday. Anyway, our friend who's a very, very good friend. I've known him for be 20 years in November.
I've known him for a long time. And I was the groomsman is wedding and is one of these friends that I can go years without even seeing me up with him. And it's like it was yesterday.
You know, there's no, there's no, there's no, I don't know what the right word is, because, you know, I've seen people who I was really, you know, gotten really well with and then don't see them for a while. And then I just got nothing to say to them. I've got nothing to talk to them about.
That's quite often people I've worked with, because I've noticed in jobs I've had. When I go out with them, like we go out drinking or hang out during the break time or lunchtime or whatever. Quite often we end up talking about work anyway.
So once you take that out of the equation, and especially as I, they can't talk about anyone else at work, because I won't know anyone because, you know, the staff's changed since I last saw them, you know, two, three years ago. So there's nothing to talk about. So it's like, hello, you all right? Yeah, bye.
Take care. All the best. Blah, blah, de blah, which is a shame because I felt I made some quite good friends in places I've worked.
And well, I have made some good places. I mean, two of my bestest friends ever were people I've worked with in London. So, you know, that was very, in fact, three of my best friends, although one of my best friends, he owns the comedy club.
So he's, I love that man, and I'll always love him. And he was kind of like my boss for a while as well. So he was, I never worked, I suppose I did work with him, but I worked for him.
But I knew him for eight years before that, anyway. And I've known him for 20 years after that. 20 years afterwards.
So you know, I've been friends. At one point, I had the keys to his house. I used to babysit his house when he was away on holiday, look after his cat.
Oh, that's brilliant. I thought I had the volume down on my phone. But I didn't.
Facebook notification. Stupid thing. Why would I need to be notified because something comes on Facebook? Why? What possible? How? How boring would my life have to be for me to get excited that someone's posted something on Facebook? No, if I want to know what's on Facebook, I'll have a look.
I can check my notifications anytime. I'm not sitting here. Oh, I hope I get a notification on Facebook.
I've posted something. I hope somebody likes it. Actually, I am a little bit like that.
Yeah, it's truth be told. I do sometimes post things I think, oh, I wonder if anyone's actually looked at it. Has anyone liked it yet? Not a big fan of that side of myself.
Twitter. I'm on Twitter. I've got a small amount of people following me on Twitter.
I mean, literally a tiny, tiny percentage of people. But I still post my stuff on there. Still share my podcasts, videos or whatever.
And I get the odd person follow me on Twitter. It's just very, very minimal. Admittedly, I never share my Twitter page to anywhere.
It might be on my website. I don't know. But I think Twitter is not so much for people like me.
It's more for those that post, post stuff like written stuff, or maybe pictures of themselves doing, you know, being handsome or pretty. I can't really do that, because I'm neither handsome nor pretty. So, and the idea of writing, typing stuff in there, that's not really my thing.
I'm more verbal than typey. It's not like I haven't got anything to say. Well, actually, I haven't got anything to say.
But it doesn't stop me saying it. There's a lot of us out there, as I'm sure you realize, if you've been alive long enough. There's a lot of people, the people that talk the most are the ones that have the least to say.
And I'm one of them. And I'm proud of it. Except, the difference for me is I'm not really very opinionated.
Because whatever I say, I don't really care. You know, I might get, I might go into a little bit of a about people on buses or whatever. But I don't really care about it.
It's just a subject and I get into it all. I let the words flow. I'll tell you one thing that really bugs me while we're on this subject.
I follow some hypnosis or hypnotherapy, hypnosis, Facebook groups. And I don't know if it's the same with every group. But it seems to be every group I seem to follow.
There's always a handful of know-it-alls. A real know-it-alls like, you know, they quote something. They say something like, oh, and a recent one, this bloke said, someone asked a question.
Let me read it out. Let me read it. I can charge my phone later.
Let me read it out. Where are you Facebook? There you go. All right.
Bipolar support group. I'm in that. Someone's right in there saying, spoke to my psychiatrist and he's changed my diagnosis to unstable personality disorder.
So it's actually an emotionally unstable personality disorder, EUPD. I realize it's BPD. Anyone here familiar? Blah, blah, blah.
Well, I've been diagnosed with both. EUPD, so emotionally unstable personality disorder and um, what was it? Bipolar affective disorder. Bipolar affective disorder or something.
Yeah. Affective bipolar or bipolar affective disorder, something like that. And this person like, they've looked up, they've got very, um, good.
I'm not gonna read it all out because these are personal messages, but you can just join the group to read it. But I just read out a little bit of it and it's, um, reading that borderline personality disorder is more psychological than chemical imbalance. Yeah.
Apparently, um, so bipolar can be controlled with medication and therapy because it's, it's more than just a chemical stuff, but it's, you know, it can be controlled or helped, maintained, whatever chemically with emotionally unstable personality disorder. It is a psychological thing, but anything, any behavior starts in the brain. It's the brain that causes our behavior.
So ultimately it's a brain thing. So if you stutter, if you compulsive liar, or if you steal, it's a brain thing that's, you know, it's behavioral, but the brain controls everything, baby. So it's kind of, Oh, so to say like one thing's brain and another thing isn't is kind of incorrect in a way the experts still sort of stick on that one, but the neurological talk about know it alls.
Blimey, I'm being a know it all. I'm not really, I'm just saying what I've learned from the, uh, the new neuro, um, whatever they call them selves, brain experts. There's they realize that everything is brain.
In fact, you've got a book called, we are our brains by Dick swab, Dick swab, just in case you want to read the book. We are our brains by Dick, D I C K Dick swab. And another book I got is called the brain by David Eagleman, David D A E GLEMAN, David Eagleman.
And they all say the same thing. It's like the brain is everything is, um, the, I was watching this lecture on telly. No, it's on YouTube.
And all sounds like the gas man's here. I just pressed pause there, but no, no, nothing, nothing happening. What was I talking about? I've disrupted my flu.
Yeah. I was watching this YouTube and this new neurologist or neuroscientist, I forget what they call themselves now. And it's basically they're, they're the future or they're, we're not a future.
They're now. And a lot of things to change in a way that science and the health people look at things like human behavior, brain, um, uh, diseases, uh, all kinds of things, but it might take, it might take a hundred years before they've fully kind of got it all sorted out. I don't know, but it's amazing stuff.
It's amazing stuff. And, uh, I'm really interested in it. In fact, I would say I'm probably, it's kind of the thing I'm most interested in at the moment, but I'm stopping myself from reading the books because I don't want to get obsessed because when I get obsessed, that's it.
I'll end up reading everything on the subject and end up watching every video and wanting to be a neuroscientist myself. And that's never going to happen. So it's probably better.
I kind of rein it in a little bit because I do get a bit obsessive when it comes to a new interest. I'll give you an example. Um, hypnosis, hypnosis, when I first got involved, when I first got interested in hypnosis back in two, what was it? 1998.
It was January. I bought two books, basically Introduction to Hypnosis. And that was it.
That was the clincher. And I just bought book after book, after book, after book, after book, after book. And at one point, I mean, I've got a couple of hundred books on hypnosis now, and I did lose my whole collection at one point.
There's a funny story connected to that, but I won't mention it now. And I had, I don't know how many books I had on hypnosis, but from hypnosis came NLP. And then from that came psychotherapy.
And then came counseling. It says it kind of spread out. I started getting interested in the different people that were mentioned.
So okay. So Carl Rogers, I got interested in him. So instead of, what I realized is, and it's not for everyone, but instead of reading about somebody, I found it more interesting to read what they had to say themselves, to actually read their books, not someone else's interpretation of what they were saying.
Because, you know, Carl Rogers is pretty damn clear about what he's saying. Milton Erickson was clear about what he was saying. Even other people thought, even he himself didn't think he was clear.
But I'd say I've read his books, and he wrote a lot of books. More books have been written about him, about what he did, trying to dissect. This Milton Erickson is a, he's like a pioneer hypnotherapist or hypnotist.
He was a psychiatrist. I think he died in 1980, I think. And he was around, you know, he's, he was, he's like a a big, big, big person in the hypnosis world.
So I mean, if you think about the self-help world, motivational world, Anthony Robbins is at the top. He's not my favorite. And I don't think he's the best.
But that's just because he's not my, you know, I think he's great at what he does. And my, my favorite, like Jim Rohn. And, but I like a few, but this is like, no one can argue that the most successful, you can argue it, but you'd be wrong if you go against it.
The most successful person of his genre is him, Anthony Robbins. Because of, well, it's just the millions upon millions of books and tapes and videos or whatever he sold, and courses that he sold over the years. No one's matched that, no one's, no one is even touching him on that.
So I don't really know what my point is on there. But Milton Erickson, he was brilliant. And I love Jim Rohn.
I did, I mean, Bob, um, what was his name? Bob Proctor. I liked him as well, but he was a bit grumpy. But I did like him.
I was a big fan of Bob Proctor. And he, he passed away recently. And I used to watch him, he used to do live streams recently, actually, like not long, literally weeks before he passed away.
And I think it was in his 80s. And he really, he, I like listening to him. Because he knew his stuff.
He really knew it. He knew what he was talking about. Oh, someone's coming.
Another false alarm there. Nothing like an interruption during a recording, is there? Hey. Anyway, oh, yeah, this.
Oh, I still forgot to say this. I have to say anyway, where is it? Blimey. Oh, I got a card.
I'm gonna have to say thank you tomorrow. Because I got a card to Jason, thank you for always boring me to sleep. You're one in a million.
Lots of love Gemma. And on the front it says as legends go, you're the most legendest. Brilliant.
Thank you very much Gemma. I was very, very pleased with that. Very pleased.
It was lovely to get that and what I will say again, thank you at the beginning of the next recording because some people I've already fallen asleep by now. I hear that a plane going past. There was quite a really nice day today.
Really nice day to actually go out. But no I'm stuck inside. Waiting for gas.
Dun dun dun gas man. Or woman. Gas person.
Super gas. I don't know. It's always been a man.
I don't know why. Every time when I had the boiler break down, they put a new boiler in. Just before I think it was 2019 I think it was.
Or the beginning of 2020. And they put in a new gas meter, a new gas boiler. That was two men did that.
And they didn't put it in right. And then two other men came along to fix it. Didn't have the right parts and they came back and two other men came in with the right parts.
Something like that. And then previous to that it broken down probably about five six times. Always men.
And then it gets checked every year. Always men. So I don't know if they have any women working for them.
They might do. I neither care. I don't care if they do or not.
Just I was just just mentioning it innit. My postman's a woman. You can't say your postman is a woman.
I know but I just I just did though didn't I? I've proved that I can say that. My postal worker. I don't know what the right the postie.
We call them posties. The postie is a is a lady. And well you're surprised are you? You sexist little bigot.
No I'm not surprised at all. I'm used to it by now. You know it's weird.
There were jobs that were just well I don't think it was even a law. I don't think it was like you can't be a postal worker if you're a woman. I think it was just for some reason predominantly men did the job.
Like lorry drivers. I don't know if there was ever like a law. Maybe companies just wouldn't take women on.
I don't know but I think it's always been allowed just like in snooker. Women have been allowed to place professional snooker with the men. They just never have or they've never it's just for whatever reason women haven't or less women have I guess shown an interest in playing snooker professionally maybe.
I'm not sure. They were talking about the snooker world final and there's a Thai girl, Thai woman, Thai lady boy and she's a snooker player but she's really really really proper good and apparently she's because she's so good she's starting to other women are starting to take notice a bit more and becoming more interested in playing snooker. So I guess if that's what it takes if it takes for like one outstanding person to come along in a sport which is predominantly men to change things up then I think that's brilliant.
You know being a boxing fan I've grown up with men boxing always men always men and then things started to change like I don't know. I mean I know that there was always female boxers but you know for 20-30 years Layla Ali, Muhammad Ali's daughter, she was a boxer and she was the most famous boxer, female boxer and I think Fraser's daughter was a boxer. Incidentally Muhammad Ali's grandson is now a boxer, professional.
I think he's light heavyweight.
He's very tall and slim and it's weird because he's got a double barrel name because he wanted to keep the Ali bit in and I don't think he's done his career any harm because he's getting on big shows even though he's only done like two or three fights and he's won them all but because of his name having Ali in his surname got everyone watching got everyone listening got everyone interested not everyone in the world but just those you know the boxing experts and stuff and it became I think in America more than anywhere else
it's become interesting at the very least I find it interesting like okay let's see you know regardless if Muhammad Ali was the best ever did it he's the most famous boxer of all time no one can argue that no one no one in the world can argue that Muhammad Ali was the most famous the most loved most hated I guess at times as well most controversial boxer in history I don't think anyone or maybe we should say of the 20th century I mean other boxers perform better than him Evander Holyfield won the world title heavyweight
title think five times four or five times Lennox Lewis won the world title three times Muhammad Ali won it three times but it's worth remembering you know it's like okay we won it three times wow yeah but to get to that point you'll have to have lost it twice usually Tyson Fury is an example where that is not the case and David Benedivez Benavidez Benavidez Benavidez Benavidez yeah Benavidez is another one who's you don't know who he is you should check him out he's so brilliant he's my favorite boxer David Benavidez Benavidez Benavidez something like
that he's a super middleweight boxer and he's lost his world title twice but not through defeat he lost his title twice once then the first time is because he went out partying after the fight and he got tested the next day for recreational substances okay so not performance enhancing stuff you know like most athletes get in trouble for steroids and stuff like that his was more he just was partying the night of the fight you know after he'd won the world title or defended a world title so he lost he got stripped of his world
title then he came back and he won the world title again he lost it again but this time on the scales because he was too heavy he wasn't able to budge the weight so although he went into the fight his opponent could win the world title from him but he lost it already so win or lose he wasn't coming away with anything but he won the fight knocked the bloke out but he still remained without a title and now so you see this is that's why it's boring because i love this but you're a lot
of people say what are you talking about boxing for man it's boring yep let me bore you to sleep see it's a win-win for me if it's interesting brilliant if it's boring brilliant it's it's a win-win i can't lose it's great ah why didn't i think of this many years ago imagine if i just if i'd just done this back in 2006 and just just let me bore you to sleep and just done this nothing else just this by now i'd have over i'd have at least 50 people listening to me every day at least
50 now that's that's a success man at least 50 53 please yeah i'll be a superstar anyway so i worked out i probably no i wouldn't how many do i get how many do i get a year what do you reckon i've worked out i said i might get about a million downloads a year of this podcast not not on the actual podcast itself but spread out between the let me bore you to sleep podcast and all the other podcasts that it's on that i share it on so i might i might get about a
million a year a million listens every year of these podcasts to let me bore you to sleep i could add it up but it would be going through going through them and it just take it would take absolutely forever to do it i might do it anyway just for fun just maybe do last year like how many did i get last year maybe no i think i tried to do it once before and it was too much because i'm to keep going back and back and back and back and back and back and like oh
man no i want to travel forward in time but i want to travel back or at least stay in the present for now just for a little while oh yeah what i've done a couple of days ago is i have i've got myself a postal box i used to have one in the past but that was back when i first moved in here i think or no no that was back when i lived in the other place i think and i didn't didn't really use it much didn't get a lot of use from it but
because i've given you know some people have asked for my address so they could send me cards or gifts or letters or whatever and i have given my address out to a few people but what i thought i would do is actually get a get a post box and then so i'll purchase that and i will then it takes 15 days or 10 days to to be available so i'm waiting to hear from them so it's another eight days left and then i will let you all know what the postal box is the address i'll
post it on the podcast maybe or on my website and that way if you want to send me a message you can or send me a card or gift or anything whatever you want to do it's lovely thank you and i will you know i'd quite like to get back a little bit to you know wishing people happy birthday and things like that you know do a little shout out for people i like doing that if if anyone wants to do that it's uh maybe i need a special email address to do that with so
i'll look into that maybe a special email address so uh let me boy to sleep at hotmail or whatever i don't know yeah we'll see i'll have a look into that i'll have a little look yes and it'd be nice you know to have that just can you do to shout out for my husband or my wife or my wife or my husband or my goldfish or whatever yeah can you shout can you say wish a happy birthday to me savoy you know whatever whatever it is it's fine me sausage roll is three today so
it's not just say hey happy birthday man happy christmas happy whatever happy anniversary that's the thing people celebrate you know anniversaries happy anniversary and yeah i'm happy to do that and i try and if i remember i try and read out messages or stuff that i've received comments those kinds of things or shout outs at the very start of the recording because i know if i do it half an hour through or in you may have drifted off to sleep out of sheer boredom and you know it's just cool i don't mind being called boring
it's fine it doesn't hurt my self-esteem one bit hmm so yeah yeah there are some people though you know they're so like you say to them all um i do a podcast because it's a boring i'm most boring person and i'll actually then believe you and find you boring because you've just told them that you were boring and there's other people that will actually make fun of you for being boring when you told them that you're boring it's it's weird human beings i just thought i find them very weird not all human beings yes all
of them every single one because i've met everybody you know just some some of the human traits i mean i was when i was at the hotel when i visited my dad because he's a chali girl and i i he was in the entertainment in pole dancing no he wasn't i so i was at the bar and i was just talking to one of the girls and i said oh i was 30 when you were born or something like that i don't know how it worked out we talked and but there was this bloke who
kind of came in he was waiting to get served he took that as he was almost like um laughing at me rather than laughing you know i was saying the stuff it was funny but he was laughing at me trust me i can tell because i've been laughed at a lot in the past and it was that attitude and the fact is that he was probably fairly old himself you know he wasn't exactly a youngin so i find that kind of you could say how could you tell if someone's laughing at you not with you
i don't know i can just tell there's a snidiness to it there's a there's it's not friendly when someone laughs at you they're not being friendly they're it's no kindness there it's if they laugh with you then well people don't make make they don't mind making fun of themselves as well and these this person probably someone that would never make fun of themselves because they wanted to be seen a certain way now that's a lot to take on from just meeting someone for the first time but i watched him in action with his friend and
i thought he was a nice enough person but there was definitely that um that awareness of wanting to be perceived a certain way and not to i think some people i say because it's not just men it's i'm sure but i've noticed it more in men over the years but that that sense of not wanting to show any kind of weakness what they perceive as weakness and that's where the problem is because if they perceive being humorous and making fun of yourself as weakness in themselves doing that then they're gonna that's how they're gonna feel
about anyone else that does it so anyone else that makes fun of themselves they're going to automatically assume that that person's a weak person you know so for example if they would they would never walk around in um well i don't know maybe they wouldn't drive in a certain car because that's a sign of a in their head a poor person a poor person drives that kind of car here's people in the garden and then so that whoever they see in that kind of car they're gonna in their mind even if they don't think about
it they're still gonna like oh they're poor because they're driving that car which is i don't know a little bit of a sad way to live your life judging people in that way and if you judge yourself in that way it's kind of no option but to judge other people in that way because that's just the way it works you kind of have to it's you know if i'm yeah i mean okay you don't have to i suppose if you have a bit of awareness and you think about things and stuff i guess there's a
way around it but you know i make fun of myself being overweight but i don't make fun generally of other people being overweight you know so it's because i'd find that cruel if someone did it to me so but some people i know i remember this um in the past some people and i'm using the phrase some people because you know it's not everyone and it's it's rare it was it's rare for me anyway these days but some people find if you make fun of yourself that's the green light for them to make fun of
you and it was never the green light ever and i don't think it ever is i don't know you'd have to we have to do research on people that like happy to put themselves down as a joke you know sort of humor way does that mean that they want everyone else because i'll make fun of being overweight but i don't want people shouting at me calling me fatty or anything like that in fact i don't recommend it to be honest but some people see that as like a weakness like oh well you're making fun of
yourself therefore you know i'll make fun of you maybe it's just bullies maybe the bully mentality comes out i don't know i've gone a different direction haven't i i just i just started thinking about that as i was talking never really understood that that there's a certain mentality that i've never understood the people that take themselves very seriously that's something i've i've struggled with understanding now i've i've i'm talking about people take themselves seriously just seem to always take you know like all the time it seems continuously um not that anyone continuously does anything because
we don't know what people are like do we they might be really serious and uptight and around other people when they get home and they might be absolutely a joy to be around but just extremely serious and not much fun to be around you know at work or whatever i might be lovely outside of work i've met people like that they were just almost a different person outside of work to the way they were in work and i couldn't really understand it that someone could be so different i mean so different outside of work just
to the point of i don't understand this what why i mean it's like a double personality i understand someone would act differently if they were drunk or whatever but this is just someone that's come straight from work and as soon as they walk into the pub or walk into the bar or nightclub or whatever they transform like what's going on of course i'm talking from past experiences because i haven't had those experiences for quite some time there's been a couple of people i worked with someone that really i've worked with a lot of people i
didn't get on with when i was young as i got older i learned how to work with people and how to behave myself but it took a long time it took wasn't really until i reached sort of late 20s though i learned how to get along with people and yeah probably to my late 20s so for the first what 15 25 the first nearly 15 years 14 years of work my work life um there was a fair bit of confrontation bit i just wouldn't put up with any rubbish and people i'd always fight my corner
and wouldn't put up with it wouldn't put up with people talking to me in a way that i didn't like and my way of dealing with it was by being rude probably maybe definitely possibly and you know i learned to do things differently then i started working in call centers when i was in my 30s and and learned to kind of rein it in as it were but back in those days you know i'd work with someone and it'd be there was one person two that i remember particularly that were like this one was when
i was working in a place when i was 18 it's a factory i was packing electric meters into boxes and he wasn't the boss but he was kind of boss of me he was he was a supervisor kind of the boss was lovely the big boss was even lovelier but this bloke who would drive around on a forklift was a knob basically he was just rude obnoxious and always trying to sort of always moaning or get on me work and stuff like that no one else did that he was just him just the way he
was and no one liked him well no one seemed to like him anyway i'm sure he had friends but no one in our little group you know that worked there and i didn't like him i just really didn't to be not squared up but we it was close a couple of times he used to push me really used to push me not physically but just and i left and then one day i was still 18 so it was in the summer like late summer probably maybe june that's not late so it's early summer isn't it
really probably about june time in and i was 18 it was this is 19 yeah 1989 so i started there i was working there in the august or september 88 so i'd left in the january 88 december 88 yeah that's it so i wasn't wasn't there a long huge long time really or was i i can't remember i lose track i honestly i lose track um and you won't know i could just make it up but anyway this i saw him in 1989 in the summer i just come out of the garage and the petrol
station and i had a can of lager and i was just drinking it i think i bought a couple of cans that was it and i was just drinking it about to go for a walk on the beach and he walks up and i just thought it's us we're gonna end up having a fight now so i kind of prepare myself and he walks i said you're right jason big smile like yeah i honestly i thought i thought i was gonna have to defend myself and it turned out he's a really nice bloke outside of
work it turned out he really didn't like the job basically that was the point he couldn't stand the job that he was doing and he'd been there a long time it may still be there i don't know but it turned out it was lovely very kind very caring and we ended up living together so yeah i mean i i had to move out of a place and he put me up i didn't live together like husband and husband it was just it was more casual it was just as friends we just lived together at two
different addresses and we fell out well i didn't fall out i moved to london and he i kind of left him with the rent so i guess that wasn't a good thing but you know i told him i didn't just move i told him i was gonna move and he just wasn't happy he really kind of turned and and that was it never saw him again i mean i was just moving to london i was still gonna stay friends with him i had no intention of wasn't breaking up you know it's just the way he
reacted to me moving away i knew that well i must have to go because basically at that point i've lost my job and i couldn't afford really to stay anywhere anymore because i didn't have any and i had an opportunity had an opportunity to move to london and i visited london and i got a job to start on the monday it was only with an agency but it was still money so and i had somewhere to stay so i took the opportunity because it was either that or be unemployed where i was so i moved
and you know but the thing is he was so he was lovely you know outside of work that was the point i was trying to make and there was another one um who i used to work with in london and he was an absolute nightmare at work but outside of work lovely you know he'd shout at people and he got in serious trouble for doing that once outside of work from one of the people he shouted at and but he he'd be really really quite horrible and then he'd say do you want to go go
to the pub and he really liked me but we were it was like i was his best friend and we'd sit in a pub and we'd drink and he was the loveliest man honestly it's really strange um how different people can be in i guess it's a situational thing i suppose the idea of acting a certain way when you're at work and and then being able to just drop that when you leave i mean that's great if you can drop your work when you leave but i don't think anyone needs to be horrible when they're
at work it's uh but i think some people get a kick from it for something like you know some people get get a buzz from being in charge many people do otherwise there wouldn't be so many people wanting to be in charge and to be able to boss other people around so there's quite a few people probably millions millions uh enjoy being the boss of other people for different reasons yeah anyway i'm gonna go so thank you for listening remember to be kind to yourself bye
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